Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a psub for sale?

["James Stuart" <faster_jsg@hotmail.com>]

In this ligious society you would have to be nuckin' futs to build a 
submersible for someone or for general sale. The first time something 
happened and someone was injured or killed (and it WILL happen), the first 
suit the ambulance chasers will file will be against you the builder.  
Whether you are at fault or not isn't relevant, to them. You are just 
another target to get milked of money.

Just look at some of the BS lawsuits that have been filed from the Sept. 11 
attacks in NY...

Sad but thats the way it is,
James


>From: "Herve" <caribsub@coqui.net>
>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a psub for sale?
>Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:36:30 -0400
>
>No that easy answear....it is just completely untrue
>In case of accident , in a court of law this will make BOTH purchaser and
>builder liable, with the condition that purchaser has an understanding of
>the designs, that understanding would be the first thing to be challenged 
>by
>plaintiff. Signing  a drawing or a design does not mean you understand it.
>If purchaser appears not having the understanding of the designs builder
>will be totally liable no matter what.
>However, building a vehicle for somebody that appears to be hazardous WILL
>NOT waive builder liability  in case of injury or death, and I challenge
>anybody who claims the contrary to prove it.
>In building a sub for somebody you should :
>design a sub not trying to get away with liability. otherwise thay means 
>you
>are not even sure of what you are doing and that looks even worst in case 
>of
>claims.
>Dont you think there are thousands of professional attorneys that are so
>familiar with the "was'nt me" and know how to fight it.
>Take a liability insurance, if the underwritter does not want to insure you
>that means there is a problem with your design.
>Never take for granted whatever "advises" come from people who tell you 
>"yes
>do it"
>instead listen to people who tell you "dont do it" THEY will give you the
>guidelines.
>  Herve
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carsten Standfuß" <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a psub for sale?
>
>
> > It's a easy answer:
> >
> > Make shure that every construction drawing is signed by the future
> > owner.
> > So be shure thats it his design (on the papers).
> >
> > Make small contracts:
> >
> > 1.) Making a design for him
> > 2.) Making a hull for him
> > 3.) Making outfitting a hull for him
> > 4.) test drive a boat for him
> >
> > 5.) If he order from you in small steps :
> >
> > 1a.) to make a design
> > 2a.) make a hull
> > 3a.) outfitting a hull
> > 4a.) test the boat
> >
> > that means : HE is the projekt manager, THE owner, THEe builder - and
> > responisable for all..
> > Your are just the subcontractor..
> >
> > Carsten - I did it this way.. seems this will work in every country..
> >
> > Paul B schrieb:
> > >
> > > Situation: somebody wants to buy a psub. Somebody wants to build a 
>psub
>and
> > > sell it. Okay, two meet each other. Does the seller have to get
> > > certifications/insurance on a psub prior to selling it? I mean, what
>happens
> > > if something happens to a person in a psub? Who would be liable? Or
>should
> > > two people just have an agreement signed about a psub being sold "as
>is",
> > > without any warranty or liability? It's kind of gray area of the law 
>to
>me..
> > >
> > > Sincerely, Paul.
> >
> >
>




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