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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building the Impossible: The First Submarine
>I have given consideration to a bunch of older ships, not just subs. In
>the sub catagory it starts with De Son's sub of 1653. An odd design,
>but I feel that it certainly could have worked after simple testing.
>Like placing some kind of a shield or wheel well above the paddle
>wheels. Would have dragged something fierce, but still would have
>improved the propusion by 500%.
>
>Gave brief thought to Bushnell's Turtle, but decided it's good only when
>I feel suicidal.
>
>Right now one of my favorites is Fulton's Nautilus. Now a lot of the
>designs I have considered would be replicated on the exterior only.
>With today's technology it could be replicated both extrenally and
>internally and still be "safe", but I just want to replicate the
>extrerio. Not just a show piece but something I can use for my own
>enjoyment.
>
>I have considered a number of other subs, such as the Hunley, but feel
>these I mentioned are those I have considered most.
>Carl
>
>
>Steven Mills wrote:
>>
>> Carl wrote:
>>
>> > I have been thinking of doing an older sub design as well. Not sure
>> > which one yet.
>> >
>>
>> Anything particular in mind?
>>
>> I've thought about the CSS Pioneer
>>
>> http://www.beaufortshipsmuseum.com/pioneer.html
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>> >
>> > Steven Mills wrote:
>> > >
>> > > http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/submarine/submarine.html
>> >
>> > --
>> > "No man who is not willing to bear arms and to fight for his rights can
>> > give a good reason why he should be entitled to the priviledge of living
>> > in a free community." -- Theodore Roosevelt
>
>--
>"No man who is not willing to bear arms and to fight for his rights can
>give a good reason why he should be entitled to the priviledge of living
>in a free community." -- Theodore Roosevelt
Hi Coalbunny
Ever thought of the Simon Lake designs, Simon Lake was way ahead of
his time, subs with wheels and small lock out chambers were thought
at the time to be crazy while Holland who designed watertight garbage
cans that could fire torpedos was thought of as a great engineering
pioneer. The Lake submarines were intended for exploration and
underwater construction although in his sales pitch to the US navy he
spoke of their value as mine layers and their ability to enter enemy
ports and put divers in the water to attach mines to ships.
Also mooted at the time by Simon Lake or persons employed by him (I
would like to know who) was the idea that a section of telegraph
cable could be brought into a sub and clandestinely tapped without
the enemy knowing, this was not attempted until 1962 by the US (
induction tap ) although Germany may have tried to do it during WW2 (
Carsten can you shed any light).
Bushnell's Turtle is not a bad design just improve the structural integrity
ie: not wood, add thrusters and you have what I imagine would be a
very interesting sub, though I do like the idea of the Fulton with
the sail handy if you ever run out of power.
Regards Garry
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