Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub at Portland, OR boat show

[MerlinSub@t-online.de (Carsten Standfuß)]

Hi Ray, 

not so worry about the price Tag of 750.000 US Dollar..

If you can keep a secret : 

The Original price new in 1989 was 120.000 Pound Sterling, 
the second had ascing price from a swedish Broker
about 100.000 US Dollars in 1999. This prices are given
for S102 - the more improved vessel. 

I think a selfbuild usefull uncertified Psub of this size 
would be around something like 50.000 US Dollars - But ask Bill G.
for his estimate price - his sub has more or less the same size. 

regards Carsten


Ray Keefer schrieb:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I went to the Portland boat show last night. I feel kind of lame, I let
> you guys down. I didn't even take pictures.
> 
> Any one else who goes please do a better job.
> 
> Details:
> 
> I took my son and we ooh'ed and ah'ed at all the neat boats. By the time
> we got to the far corner of the Expo center were the sub was located I
> was a bit tired and my son was complaining and limping on a sore ankle.
> So the meeting didn't go well in my mind. One of those events I would of
> done better if given a second chance.
> 
> Two gentlemen were with the sub. They introduced themselves and I introduced
> myself. I mentioned I was the web maintainer to PSUBS and they said they
> never heard of it. So I mentioned we were a group of individuals from sub
> professionals, designers, college professors to farmers. Everything from
> scratch built to Kittredge's designs.
> 
> At which one guy said, "Who is Kittredge?"
> 
> The other guy said, "Hey I met Kittredge in Maine back in '91. Kind
> of an old guy. His sub was scary."
> 
> Taken a bit aback at that I really didn't recover too well and didn't think
> well on my feet.
> 
> Stupid me, I wrote our URL to our web site on the only business card they
> gave me and handed it back. Duh. And I can't remember any names. :(
> 
> What I can tell you is:
> 
> 1. Yes, it is still painted in the killer whale motif.
> 2. It is actually the S101.
> 3. The business card and placard by the sub said they were US Submarines.
>    I just located their URL on this sub:
> 
>    http://ussubs.com/Main_folder/itvpt4.html
> 
> 4. One design feature they showed me was the bow planes. They fold up by
>    manually reaching under the plane the pulling a catch and manually folding
>    up the plane. Kind of nice. I can imagine it being a bit treacherous in
>    choppy water, perched in the far end of a pitching deck, reaching into
>    the water to fold bow planes.
> 
> 5. The conning tower view port looked like a one foot section of clear
>    acrylic tubing. The walls of the acrylic looked like an inch thick.
> 
> 6. There was a single three bladed propeller in back, about 12" in diameter.
> 
> 7. Only a rudder in back, now stern planes.
> 
> 8. I like the layout of the bottom view port being set back from the bow.
> 
> 9. The URL Carsten gave us gives more information. Again:
> 
>    http://www.charliebird.net/marlinsubs/s101.htm
> 
> 10. The over all shape is much like a WWII sub.
> 
> 11. At their $750,000 price tag for a new one I won't be getting one any
>     time soon. :)