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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reference Material



Hi,

Just one last comment. There isn't any one book that says, "this is how
to build a PSUB.". A few years ago one fellow broke off of the PSUBS group
to write such a book but I never heard any more.

Also there was a group the broke off PSUBS who were going to design a PSUB
and build it. Last I heard they barely got passed the desireable 
basic design features list.

Regards,
Ray

> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:59:10 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@sun.com>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reference Material
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here is a brief description of top five design(?) books:
> 
> Concepts in Submarine Design by Roy Burcher and Louis Rydill 
> 
> 	Textbook on how to approach the design of a submarine. 
> 	Their experience is on British diesel-electric military
> 	subs so their mindset and examples are for large subs.
> 	
> 	Good on discussing a systematic approach for designing
> 	submarines.
> 	
> Rules for Building and Classing Underwater Vehicles, Systems, and 
> Hyperbaric Facilities by American Bureau of Shipping & Affiliated Companies
> 
> 	Good for safety gothcha's and states questions a "safe" design
> 	must meet. Doesn't tell you how to come up with the answers
> 	or give you the math to do so. Kind of, you come with the design
> 	with all the math and answers and if they answer the limits set
> 	out in this book then ok.
> 	
> 	Not so much a book on how to build a sub but a book on what limits
> 	your design needs to meet.
> 	
> Acrylic Plastic Viewports by Jerry D. Stachiw
> 
> 	Tells you almost anything you want to know about viewports.
> 
> Submarine Design by Ulrich Gabler
> 
> 	Much the same as Concepts in Submarine Design. As such both are
> 	somewhat redundant.
> 	
> Manned Submersibles by R. Frank Busby
> 
> 	Focus is on small commercial submersibles. Looks at a variety of
> 	submersibles then in existance in the 1970's with examples
> 	of design features taken from a variety of subs. 
> 	
> 	Again, no detailed math but a survey of what has been done to solve
> 	specific problems with some ancedotal stories.
> 	
> 	Good for showing you what has been done.
> 	
> 	
> I would rate their importance:
> 
> 	1. Concepts in Submarine Design OR Submarine Design
> 	2. Manned Submersibles (if you can find it)
> 	3. Rules for Building and Classing Underwater Vehicles, 
> 	   Systems, and Hyperbaric Facilities
> 	4. Acrylic Plastic Viewports
> 	5. Concepts in Submarine Design OR Submarine Design (which ever you
> 	   don't have yet)
> 	   
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> 	
> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:31:26 -0800
> > From: Jacob Lauser <jrlauser@pacbell.net>
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reference Material
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
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> > Just wondering if it's worth getting or not... Barnes and Noble has it for
> > $40.
> > 
> > - Jake Lauser
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ray Keefer" <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reference Material
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:31:45 -0800
> > > > From: Jacob Lauser <jrlauser@pacbell.net>
> > > > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reference Material
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> > > > Has anyone read: "Concepts in Submarine Design" by
> > > > Roy Burcher and L.J. Rydill?
> > >
> > > Yes. Several years ago. I have a copy at home.
> > > Did you have a question about it?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Jake Lauser
> > > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ray
> > >
> > 
>