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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] question about general design?





Captain Nemo schrieb:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carsten Standfuß" <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 7:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] question about general design?
> 
> > "Expensive subs not automaticly good"
> >
> > Carsten
> 
> "Inexpensive subs not automatically bad"

"Fast and quick build sub not automatically fast but maybe quick
diver.." 

another one : 

"If a submarine works great - in general it looks also good."
"If a submarine looks great its not automatically works good.."

The Alvin expirence : "Shut the hatch before you dive.." 

The - Hamster - ball - bottom - sub - real - moment - of - inertia : 

here Crash Stop way : (be carefull - this is not real maths - is just a 
estimate - quick and dirty calculation - ..)  

Diameter : estimate 2 meter (6,55 feet) 

Volume  : 3,1415/6 x D x D x D or 0,5235 x D³
	: here 4,1887 m³

Mass	: in seawater with a mass of 1,025 x 4,1887 = 4,293 metric t 
	  equal to 4,293/1,016 = 4,22 ts at zero bouancy. 
	  equal to 42930 Newton 

Estimate speed : 1 km/h (3280 feet/hour)
 		equal to 1000 m/h or 16,7 m/min
                or 0,277 m/sec (0,9 feet/sec) 

Power : 42930 N x 0,277 m/sec = 11892 Watt or - 12 KW - 
stored power in the mass moment of inertia. 

Power of two person going a step of 1 feet by 1 feet 
estimate with : 

Weight 2 x 75 kg = 150 kg or 1500 Newton 

1500 Newton x 0,3 m = 450 Watt or 0,45 Kw. 

Now I make a milkcan calculation  :-) 

12 kw / 0,45 Kw = 26,7 steps stopway 

Distance full stop = 26,7 x 0,3 m = 8 meters or 26 feet. 
Good look - nice experience - especially if the seabottom  
is not flat..

I have seen a wooden heavy plywood water surface wheel 
during a waterbike regatta race between the 
european naval/shipbuilding-students. 

Two person run this monster - more or less impossible to change 
the direction - you have to stop the thing before you can change 
the direction - if not and you turn you body direction just a little
the stored power of the inertia came from the side of you body - 

- and the wheel move quickly all the times from a 
  Hamster ball to a washing machines. 

Even at start or stop manovers. 
Both person goes all the time "arm in arm" to make excat the same 
steps - during the first run they don't do this 
- if one runs - the other went over board or fall down.. 

We took the about 0,4 t wheel later onshore - turn at 90 degree to 
the ground and use it as beer bar..

This wheel was a great fun for - the visitors. 

see you - Carsten

> 
> Pat