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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fuel cells



Hi Ken,
Motor Guide has the most powerfull motor with 107 Lbs, vs 101 for Minn Kota.
Its brushes are larger for more current and battery efficiency.
I experienced power failures with Minn  Kota motors  with no apparent reasons, never with Motor Guide.
You can imagine how stressful can be a situation when a sub loses its mean of propulsion.
After disassembling, investigation and testing, it appeared that the contact between the commutators and the coil got poor because of moisture, not even water.
Though I tested successfully a motor guide that I completely flooded with salt water, ran it a while then stopped, I drained it and flushed it with a solvent to remove water and salt, the motor did not sufffer any damage and later kept running well without any other intervention. A Minn Kota does not stand such harsh test !
Motor Guides motors are also much easier to service, take apart and assemble.
My motors are pressure balanced or @ ambient pressure, the inside body motor is maintained at a pressure about the same that the outboard water pressure, keeping the water out where it does not belong regardless of the operating depth.
The system is fed with compressed air through a regulator, compressors normally delivers dry compressed air, however some moisture could built up inside the motor which makes the Motor Guide motors more reliable since Minn Kota do not stand any moisture.
This principle (ambient pressure) was used for the first time 50 years ago by Cousteau for his cameras housings and is very effective and inexpensive, some sub manufacturers tried or claim patent for that which is not lawfull since a principle cannot be patented.
regards
Herve Jaubert
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Subscuba@aol.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fuel cells

Hello Herve,

I'm interested in your statements about the Motor Guide Motors being more
reliable, more powerful and pressure compensated. Could you expand on that?
Do you have any quantitative data?

Ken Martindale

In a message dated 11/24/00 9:43:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
caribsub@coqui.net writes:


Subj: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fuel cells
Date: 11/24/00 9:43:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:    caribsub@coqui.net (Herve Jaubert)
Sender:    owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Reply-to: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To:    personal_submersibles@psubs.org




Hi Pat,
Thanks for the link.
I first used Minn Kota Trolling motors for my subs, I am using now Motor
Guide, more powerfull and more reliable, pressure compensated installed,