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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fuel cells
Hi Ken,
Motor Guide has the most powerfull motor with 107 
Lbs, vs 101 for Minn Kota.
Its brushes are larger for more current and battery 
efficiency.
I experienced power failures with Minn  Kota 
motors  with no apparent reasons, never with Motor Guide.
You can imagine how stressful can be a situation 
when a sub loses its mean of propulsion.
After disassembling, investigation and testing, it 
appeared that the contact between the commutators and the coil got poor because 
of moisture, not even water. 
Though I tested successfully a motor guide 
that I completely flooded with salt water, ran it a while then 
stopped, I drained it and flushed it with a solvent to remove water and 
salt, the motor did not sufffer any damage and later kept running well without 
any other intervention. A Minn Kota does not stand such harsh test 
!
Motor Guides motors are also much easier to 
service, take apart and assemble.
My motors are pressure balanced or @ ambient 
pressure, the inside body motor is maintained at a pressure about the same that 
the outboard water pressure, keeping the water out where it does not belong 
regardless of the operating depth.
The system is fed with compressed air through 
a regulator, compressors normally delivers dry compressed air, however some 
moisture could built up inside the motor which makes the Motor Guide 
motors more reliable since Minn Kota do not stand any 
moisture.
This principle (ambient pressure) was used for 
the first time 50 years ago by Cousteau for his cameras housings and is 
very effective and inexpensive, some sub manufacturers tried or claim patent for 
that which is not lawfull since a principle 
cannot be patented.
regards
Herve Jaubert
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  
  
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 6:50 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fuel 
  cells
  
Hello Herve, 
I'm interested in your 
  statements about the Motor Guide Motors being more 
reliable, more powerful 
  and pressure compensated. Could you expand on that? 
Do you have any 
  quantitative data? 
Ken Martindale 
In a message dated 11/24/00 
  9:43:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
caribsub@coqui.net writes: 
  Subj: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fuel cells 
Date: 11/24/00 
    9:43:27 PM Eastern Standard Time 
From: 
       caribsub@coqui.net (Herve Jaubert) 
Sender: 
       owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
Reply-to: personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
    
To:    personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
    
Hi Pat, 
Thanks for the link. 
I first used Minn 
    Kota Trolling motors for my subs, I am using now Motor 
Guide, more 
    powerfull and more reliable, pressure compensated installed,