Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Old military subs (was: U 26 for sale)

[MerlinSub@t-online.de (Carsten Standfuß)]

"D. Blake" schrieb:
> 
> Mike:
> I got on there just a few hours after Carsten posted the link this morning.
> I went to archive then uboot.  There were several pictures of U-28 in
> various stages of surfacing and diving.  I found no line drawings though.
> Still a neat sight.
> Funny thing is, I cannot get on it now.  I keep getting a "Zu viele
> Benutzer"..."Es gibt zu viele verbundene Benutzer.  Versuchen Sie es bitte
> spater nochmal".  Hope I didn't make anyone angry with my comments. 

The translation is : "To many users" ..."There are to much users. Please
try again later."

carsten


> Try
> your luck at it.
> Big Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael B Holt <michaelbholt@juno.com>
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:02 PM
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Old military subs (was: U 26 for sale)
> 
> >On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:40:19 PST "Paul Suds" <paul_suds@hotmail.com>
> >writes:
> >>Well, I guess my dreams of ever owning my own navy have been shattered.
> >>Hmmmm....I still think there's a hell of a market there. What about the
> >migs
> >>that the west europeans sell? I can see removing armaments, but
> >destroying
> >>the entire sub, well....that's like not-nice. Is this only done in
> >Germany
> >>or does every nation do this?
> >
> >Every nation, old man.   I have here the DOD brochure about the
> >scrapping of two subs that had been given to Turkey.   The boats
> >were, it seems, returned to the U.S. Navy upon retirement.
> >
> >Article EZ of the Invitation for Bid (IFB) specifies that gun mounts,
> >gun parts, torpedo tubes and periscopes will be rendered
> >unusable.   This is done by cutting the gun barrels in two, by
> >destroying ("cut through, battered or crushed") to make it
> >all unserviceable.   Torpedo tube inner doors will be cut in
> >two.   Persicopes must be cut, battered or crushed *in the
> >presence of representatives of the USN*.
> >
> >There are notes in there about how much of the basic
> >equipment has been damaged or removed.  Indeed, the
> >hulls are said to be "probably" safe for towing.
> >
> >>It's a hell of a deal;  less than pennies on
> >>the dollar usually.
> >
> >It's probably a pretty good deal if you do it all the time.
> >
> >>Oh well, maybe the North Koreans will ground one
> >>of  their units on a sandbar somewhere, and one of us will find it. We
> >>need to make a pact. If anyone on here finds a sub grounded on a rock or
> >a
> >>sandbar or whatever, he immediately gets the word out to the rest of us.
> >
> >
> >I don't think this is unreasonable.    Unlikely, perhaps, but if I run
> >across
> >one . . . .
> >
> >>Everyone  puts
> >>their psub in the water and we tow the thing to some secluded area. We
> >>hit  the guys over the head and steal their sub. We grind the serial
> >number
> >>off the hull and engine (don't forget that), and then we paint the
> >thing.
> >>Put a few dings in it, carpet the plane surfaces, chrome a few of the
> >>surfaces, and no-one will recognize it. What do you guys say, huh? Are
> >you with
> >>me on this?
> >
> >There was a James Bond movie about this.    Well, it happened in two
> >of Bond movies.
> >
> >Ever read the book "Assault on a Queen"?
> >
> >Come to think of it, "Assault on a Queen" was the book that got me
> >interested in ex-military subs.   It's a fairly good book, technically
> >speaking, but mostly by avoiding details.    Teh detail that stuck
> >in my mind was that the WW1 batteries were replaced by about
> >a zillion 12-vold car batteries.
> >
> >>Ok, so I'm crazy. I get that way when I get disappointed.
> >>I still think we can get a small intact military sub somehow.
> >
> >I understand crazy, at things like this.   I'm sure the Russians
> >would be willing to work out a deal.
> >
> >>Hey Carsten, thanks for looking into this. I also saw your picture on
> >>the  U09 or U10. You have a lot of pictures on that site. I didn't
> >realize
> >>you  had visited so many subs.
> >
> >I went to the site, Carsten.   But I never found more than one picture.
> >Where should I have gone at the site?   My German is . . . not even
> >tourist level.    Thanks.
> >
> >
> >Mike
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