Re: GUNS was Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View Ports...Shatterproof

["D. Blake" <dblake@bright.net>]

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Snyder <snyde032@tc.umn.edu>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: GUNS was Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View
Ports...Shatterproof


>Chris Crouch wrote "Therefore, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more
>dangerous than gun owners."
>
>OK, ok, Now wait a minute Chris!  I am a doctor AND a Gun owner - so where
>does that put me?  I can honestly say that I have only killed 2 people, one
>through incompetence and one through kindness

Watch out Greg!  Given the 0.171 statistic figure mentioned below, you are
way above average!

>But on a more serious note, I am a little concerned about our references to
>"Brothers" in a not so veiled euphemism for black men.  I work with several
>black men who are successful professionals and I am sure that they wouldn't
>appreciate these references.

As I do also.  The term "brothers" was not meant to be a veiled euphemism
for ALL black men.  It was in reference to what these particular scum called
each other all the time.  The professional black men I work with hardly
refer to each other in this way.  We are all on a first name basis.  And I
doubt any of them would ever group together and block my parking space just
to torment me out of disrespect.

>Yes, certain individuals in certain communities
>scare the shit out of me too, but it's not necessarily only black men, and
>it's not necessarily only in the city.

I'am usually only scared by the drug or alcohol induced psychotic ones.

 >For each chucklehead out there
>making trouble, there are at least 10 others trying to live in that
>hell-hole while trying to protect their own families - burdened with the
>fate of being a black man in America.

I agree, but I was not referring to the 10 others.

>Hearing some of the crap that my
>black doctor friends have to put up with because of there skin color is
>SICKENING. I even see it when we go out for drinks or socialize in public.
>This guy can be a Heart surgeon by day, but take him out of the scrubs and
>society treats him like just "another Brother" up to no good.  Hard road
for
>him - not to mention that his is one of the kindest, most respectful and
>down to earth people that you could ever hope to meet. So I am a little
>caution about making generalized statements about race groups

No generalizations made.  We are talking apples and oranges.

>(See, political correctness from a Republican, go figure )

Your a physician?  Yeah it figures...I mean, that you are a Republican  ;<)

>
>OK, I'm off the soap box now -
>God Bless America-
>Sincerely,
>Greg
>
>! !! Never mind. Forget
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Chris Crouch <eccrouch@cpol.net>
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1:07 AM
>Subject: Re: GUNS was Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View
>Ports...Shatterproof
>
>
>> Subject: Gun statistics
>>
>> Some Startling Statistics...
>>
>> Number of physicians in the U.S.
>> 700,000
>>
>> Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year
>> 120,000
>>
>> Accidental deaths per physician
>> 0.171
>>
>> Number of gun owners in the U.S.
>>
>> 80,000,000
>>
>> Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups)\
>> 1,500
>>
>> Accidental deaths per gun owner
>> 0.0000188
>>
>> Therefore, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous
>> than gun owners.
>>
>> Taken from the Benton County NewsTribune on the
>> seventeenth of November, 1999
>>
>>
>>
>