Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View Ports...Shatterproof

["Gregory Snyder" <snyde032@tc.umn.edu>]

Big Dave
Remind me never, NEVER to piss you off...
Sincerely
Greg
(Patron member of the NRA)
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Blake" <dblake@bright.net>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View Ports...Shatterproof


> I  emailed Carston privately over the weekend and mentioned to him that
the
> pistol and shotgun protected my family on more than one occasion when I
was
> unfortunate enough to find us living in a HUD apartment complex while
> attending the university.
> You know there really is culture shock that is experienced and must be
> adapted to if you should ever have to live in one of those places.  After
a
> while you find yourself doing outragous things you would ordinarily not
even
> consider.  In this type of environment you have to establish a "rep" for
> zero tolerence of bullshit against your loved ones.  And it helps if the
> locals think you are just crazy enough to kick their door in 24/7 and
start
> blasting away.  No need to worry about the police.  I thought I could rely
> on them at first, but it did not take long to realize they just don't care
> about 2nd class citizens.  Here's a good example:
> Not long after moving into our apartment, we heard a noise in the attic.
I
> went into my little girls room closet which had the only access available
to
> the attic.  I popped my head up in the attic and shined a flashlight
around
> and was shocked to see a young black male dart through a hole in the wall
> that separated the neighboring attic from ours.  Seems these guys had
holes
> connecting attics in the whole unit, and were using the attics instead of
> the sidewalks--like everyone else with half a brain--to get from one
> apartment to another.  Needless to say, I was up their waiting the next
time
> with my trusty 870.  Sure enough, guess who re-appears?  He didn't
> appreciate it when I shoved the barrel and magazine extension in his
piehole
> and then jacked a 3in. mag round into the chamber.  In fact he pissed all
> over himself and started crying.  I called the police, but grew tired of
> waiting for them after about an hour and kicked him out the front door in
> front of his buddies sitting around sucking on Old English 40s.  I blasted
5
> or 6 rounds into the air just to get their attention.  At 2:00 in the
> morning it sounded like a howitzer!  On other occasions:
> I threw a burgler out our 2nd story window onto the sidewalk.
> I beat 3 guys into submission with a 3-iron (and then busted their car
> windows out).
> I tried to run over 8 of the brothers that were standing together in a
group
> blocking my way into my parking lot when I returned home one night.  I
> blowed the horn first, but they just would not budge.  After parking, I
got
> out and just glared at them as I entered my apartment. And the list goes
on
> and on...
> Yeah, I developed a reputation, and all the while going to school for a
> degree in Social Work.
> Point is I guess, the bulk of violence that takes place with firearms
> happens in this type of environment.  It's kill, or be killed in some
cases.
> Other times it has to do with poverty, or just plain ignorance and lack of
> socialization, or poor socialization as in the case of those middle-class
> boys in Columbine.
> I think a person should have to undergo a competency test in order to own
> and operate a firearm not unlike an automobile.  If only the current laws
> that forbid ownership by felons or the mentally ill were enforced we would
> probable see a great reduction in gun violence.
> Big Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@ebay.sun.com>
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View Ports...Shatterproof
>
>
> >> Carsten, I respect your right to your own opinion, and it is a
> beautifully
> >> humanitarian one.  But there are sociopaths and societal deviants out
> there
> >> who are not as humane as you are; and if one of them breaks into your
> home
> >> at night, I strongly urge you to not assume he's only a harmless thief,
> >> because he might be Charles Mansons meaner twin brother.
> >>
> >> Very best regards,
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Calling 911 is not a solution either. It can take 5 to 60+ minutes for a
> >unit to respond. Even then our Supreme Court has ruled in two seperate
> court
> >cases that the police are not resposible for protecting individuals. Only
> the
> >public at large. Kind of makes you warm and cozy when things go bump in
> >the night.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Ray
> >
> >
>
>