Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Whooops!

[MerlinSub@t-online.de (Carsten Standfuß)]

Carsten - from Germany

Timesharing submarine - great idear.

I want a submarine only about 1 or 2 month a year, so timesharing
seems possible. But it has to be a profi-offshore submarine to
fullfill all requests from the differnt users. 

Seem a good idear that the sub has to be so small that you can use 
a normal 40 feet container means inside container 12 x 2,35 x2,35 m 
or equal 39 x 7,7 x7,7 feet. 

A full scale MERMIAD V is here available for about 100.000 Dollar (or
Euro) its about 7,4 x 1,8 x 2,7 m ( 1 feet = 0,3048 m help yourself).
Has two maipulators, diver look out, 4 persons, dive deep 260 m. 
speed is up to 2,7 kn, weight is about 12,5 t. Endurance 10 hours.

Will give for my part about 10.000-20.000 Dollar and will not accept
more than 5-10 owners..

regards, Carsten

Ray Keefer schrieb:
> 
> Hi Jonathan Wallace,
> 
> How many addresses do we have in the personal_submersibles list?
> 
> All,
> 
> Once we have that number we should divide by 10 to get a number of people who
> would be interested and maybe divide by 100 to get those who would actually
> put money on it. For the sake of conversation lets divide by 10 and see where
> it goes.
> 
> Issues would be:
> 
> Costs
>         To aquire a sub
>                 Total cost / number of time shares = cost per time share
>         Yearly Membership Fee (for upkeep, taxes, recertification, licenses,
>                 insurance, salary, parts....)
>                 Yearly total / number of time shares = cost per time share
> 
> Week long cruises....hmmm. Actually it would be more like:
>         Saturday        maintenance, refill consumables, refuel,
>                         inspect, clean.... (one day as an extreme minimum)
>         Sunday - Friday available for cruising, additional consumables, refuel
> 
> Periodic maintenance
>         One month enough? One week a quarter for three quarters and one month
>                 in the forth quarter? Home much time and frequency would we
>                 need?
>         Who is going to do it or be hired to do it?
>         Who is going to schedule the cruises and maintenance?
>         Is it going to be a full time position? Part time?
>         One person?
>         Salary?
> 
> Location
>         Where would the sub base be? In Florida?
>         In a yacht club? On our own beach front?
>         How about several beach front condos with docks with a SportSub at
>                 each dock? Or rentable in the main office?
>         Or is it trailerable?
>         Then who is the one that will tow it to each user?
>         How many days of that week is the sub on the road? Or would it be
>                 one week in use then one week on road (which would half
>                 the available time shares)?
>         Or is the the next user's job to pick it up from the current user?
>         If so who, when and where does the maintenance occur?
>         Which one person will be familiar enough with the sub to make sure
>                 all the correct maitenance and inspection is occuring?
>         A simple SportSub type craft would ease these concerns except all
>                 users would have to be scuba certified.
>         Limit location to the United States? North America? The World?
> 
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> > X-Lotus-Fromdomain: SWCBD
> > From: "Dan J. Rice" <dan.j.rice@sherwin.com>
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:26:53 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Whooops!
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> >
> > Hello All! Nice to be hearing from you again!
> >
> > About the time the list stopped working I had posed a question under the
> subject
> > "Time Share." Here it is again...
> > _______________
> > How many people are on this list anyway?  If we all chipped in to buy a U.S.
> > Subs 60 meter, how much would each of us have to come up with, and how often
> > would we get to use it? (based on week-long cruises at somewhere near full
> > capacity,[including family or friend] with time out for periodic maintenance.)
> > _______________
> >
> > I had thought this question would provoke some response at least.  When I
> heard
> > nothing for days I began to wonder.  I know this list is about finding the
> > perfect used propane tank, putting in some port holes, periscopes, pressure
> > gauges, dive planes, CO2 scrubbers, and maybe a seat, then heading for the
> > Mariannes trench, but this might be a fun concept to kick around. (And if a
> few
> > of us can get a million from Regis Philbin it could even happen!)
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >