[PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan submersible missing at Titanic site

[Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles]

Point taken Vance, the guy must've been real hard-headed. That can be a
really good thing or a really bad thing, situation dependent. True to a
captain, he went down with his ship, but I'm sorry that the other gents
went too. My mother's heart hurt when she learned of the father and son on
board together... she knows that another wife and mother is crying out in
loss right now.

Greg S. - don't listen to them! You're going to get that sub in the water
one of these days. We can overcome the negative press. Karl Stanley is on
CNN's Anderson Cooper show right now giving an interview on his experience
with Oceangate. He's fighting the good fight, separating the rest of us
from this catastrophe. ~ Doug S.





On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 8:12 PM Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> The power of ignorance - at least when leading the ignorant.
>
> Marc
>
> On 6/23/2023 7:22 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> > The controller is not something I would use, mine is physically much
> > tougher and has things like O-ring seals on all the pots and switches.
> > Nonetheless, I found it amazing the degree to which the "experts"
> > latched onto that and anything else that was off the shelf, as if the
> > concept of using OTS components were some sort of cardinal sin. The
> > controller, the cabin lights from Camping World, and recycled pipes
> > for ballast were all treated as obvious evidence of bad engineering or
> > even a total scam. Who cares what your ballast was in a previous life,
> > if it weighs what you need it to weigh? Moving forward we not only
> > have to look at whether OTS parts work and are reliable, but also how
> > they will be perceived. I'm not just ranting against the misinformed
> > TikTok experts, I think this is an actual lesson for us. Imagine a
> > boat ramp conversation with some local authority right now, when you
> > explain that you control the sub with a game controller. llion kids.
> > :) . But aside from that I had back up for all those functions so if
> > it failed the sub still operated. And I am sure Oceangate would have
> > done the same. ABS & DNV-GL have a principal that no one failure can
> > cause a catastrophic event. Even though I have heard they weren't
> > certified, they would certainly have been building to the rules.
> >
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