[PSUBS-MAILIST] Motors filled with OIL
Alan via Personal_Submersibles
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Tue Jan 9 15:25:07 EST 2018
Tarek,
what size sub are you planning, 1,2 person?
Are you intending to dive from it from out of a moon pool in the bottom?
Any design you want to share!
Are you familiar with Herve Jaubert's ambient submarines?
Regards Alan
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> On 10/01/2018, at 8:39 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Alan. 130fsw should work just fine, that's my sub's designated max
> depth. Your ambient is really cool.
>
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>
> Tim,
> I didn't go much more than 30ft in it. It was really a concept prototype for
> my 1atm. I will dive it again but with my new thrusters & motor controllers.
> In theory it could go as deep a diver could on air.
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On 10/01/2018, at 5:48 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>> What was the max depth that you tested your ambient sub?
>> Tim
>>
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>> Hi Tarek,
>> these were brushed. There are very few inexpensive brushless trolling
>> motors around.
>> One or two Chinese trolling motors I know of but generally a lot more
>> expensive.
>> There is nothing in the way of electronics inside the brushed motors.
>> The main thing you have got to look out for if you want to either oil
>> or air compensate electronics is the big cylindrical electrolytic
>> capacitors. You get these in motor controllers. What pressure they crush
> at I am not sure.
>> Would be a good experiment to put a bunch of various sized capacitors
>> in a pressure test chamber. You can pot around them with resin to
>> strengthen them.
>> I am making my own brushless thrusters from brushless sensored
>> outrunner motors, & oil compensating them.
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On 9/01/2018, at 9:04 PM, Tarek Harb via Personal_Submersibles
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi Alan,
>>>
>>> Were these Trolling Motors Brushless or not and did they have any
>>> Electronic components inside them? Can I still Air Compensate them
>>> if they have Electronics inside?
>>> Thanks
>>>
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>>> Tarek,
>>> I built a very small dry ambient submarine using inexpensive Chinese
>>> electric trolling motors. I air compensated the motors & hull using
>>> slightly modified octopus regulators.
>>> The motors for my next submersible will be oil compensated.
>>> My project is under ambient & Alan James on the psub projects page.
>>> Let me know if you need any more help.
>>> Regards Alan
>>>
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>>>>> On 8/01/2018, at 11:53 PM, Tarek Harb via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> I am building a Dry Ambient Submarine and I been having trouble
>>>> finding a suitable Motors for it, as I don't want to spend 1000s of
>>>> $ on
>>> each motor.
>>>> I am sure that the topic has been brought up many times before, but
>>>> I would like to enquire about the best Trolling Motor that can be
>>>> filled with OIL in order to withstand 40 meters Depth of Water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Appreciate any help in this matter.
>>>>
>>>> Tarek
>>>>
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>>>> From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles
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>>>> Hi Rick,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the standard Min kota controller has reverse. Its just a
>>>> potentiometer on a knob.
>>>>
>>>> I went for 24v min kota rip tide 80's. Wish I had gone for the
>>>> 101's to be honest.
>>>>
>>>> I have the aft thruster rigged with the controller at the side of
>>>> the seat, so I set the power and trundle off. I tend to use the aft
>>>> thruster for surface driving or slow seabed cruising, so its ok
>>>> where it is. Then I use the side thrusters while submerged for
> manouvering.
>>>>
>>>> Works ok for me.
>>>>
>>>> The pots on the controllers are on a ribbon cable. I didn't dare
>>>> cut them to extend to anything more useful, although I suspect it would
> work.
>>>>
>>>> To be honest, that's why I changed the side thrusters to simple
>>>> on\off relays. The pots were to complicated to move.
>>>>
>>>> Got a couple of links here on my site.
>>>> regards
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> This was how I had it originally. Was awkward to use side thrusters.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page19613.htm
>>>>
>>>> Main power panel.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page19348.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31/10/2017, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>> James,
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't realize that the Minn-Kota controllers had a reverse setting?
>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:39 AM, James Frankland via
>>>>> Personal_Submersibles < personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have continuous duty ones at a suitable current rating. Cant
>>>>>> remember off hand. But I don't have the reversing because I can
>>>>>> rotate the side motors for reverse. So I just have 1 relay per motor.
>>>>>> Super simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also have the standard minn kota controller on the rear thruster.
>>>>>> which allows reverse and speed control. All 3 items all fit into
>>>>>> one box with a cooling fan for good measure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, cant recommend anything other than the simple setup I have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31 October 2017 at 11:55, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>>> I am using continues duty relays and it takes 4 relays per motor.
>>>>>>> On my vertical thrusters I am using reversing relays (single
>>>>>>> relay) but they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not continues duty, witch is okay. I want to simplify by using
>>>>>>> reversing relays (continuous duty) on the main motors. I thought
>>>>>>> maybe you already have that and could recommend what works.
>>>>>>> Hank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 5:14:50 AM MDT, James Frankland via
>>>>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Hank,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cant remember off the top of my head now. I just had a quick
>>>>>>> search and I cant find them. They are just standard high current
>>>>>>> 24v pots of some sort.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I seem to remember they were similar to yours. Or some that you
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31 October 2017 at 10:25, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>>>> What type of relays are you using?
>>>>>>>> Hank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 3:10:27 AM MDT, James Frankland
>>>>>>>> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi rick,
>>>>>>>> I'm here. What do you want to know? I'm using minn Kota rip
>>>>>>>> tide 80's
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> 24v. 2x banks of 4 agm's. These are wired in 2 pairs of
>>>>>>>> batteries in series with both pairs connected to the main
>>>>>>>> terminals. I have a standard
>>>>>> heavy
>>>>>>>> switch so I can use each bank separately or both together. I
>>>>>>>> used heavy tinned marine cable. Can't remember the thickness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I find my motors a little underpowered, but other than that it
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aft thruster has the minn Kota controller, I originally had
>>>>>>>> those on the sides but found it a pain, so I changed those to
>>>>>>>> have just on/off
>>>>>> relays.
>>>>>>>> Much better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, 30 October 2017, Rick Patton via
>>>>>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>> Yes there are 2 separate pods each containing 4 each 12v
>>>>>>>> batteries , 3
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the 36v for thrusters & 1 for the onboard systems.
>>>>>>>> DAN H built his per plans and specs and is running his stern
>>>>>>>> thruster
>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>> one side & and sides off the other side but he is not running
>>>>>> Minn-Kotas.
>>>>>>>> I am hopping James Franklin will chime in as he is using the
>>>>>>>> Minn-Kotas
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> his.
>>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 8:13 PM Alan via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rick,
>>>>>>>> I am not familiar with the k350 battery set up, but are there
>>>>>>>> two battery pods with 3 x 12V batteries in each pod?
>>>>>>>> What are the other k350 owners doing? Do they run the 3
>>>>>>>> thrusters off the 2 battery pods similtaneously i.e. connect
>>>>>>>> both pods in
>>>>>> parallel.
>>>>>>>> If you did this then you would only be drawing half the amps off
>>>>>>>> each battery pod, than you would be if you were using one.
>>>>>>>> I wonder what traction batteries mobility scooters use?
>>>>>>>> Cheers Alan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 29/10/2017, at 9:27 AM, Rick Patton via
>>>>>>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to size my wire for the 36v side from where the
>>>>>>>>> power comes into the sub to selector switch to hot buss bar and
>>>>>>>>> was wondering if
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> was something that someone could answer. Also I was told by
>>>>>>>>> Minn-Kota that they recommend group 27 marine batteries.
>>>>>>>>> I have a couple of deep cycle (marine batteries) on my boat and
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> 550 cca and 125 amps reserve capacity.
>>>>>>>>> My plan is to run all three Minn-kota thrusters off of one side
>>>>>>>>> at a
>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> and their max draw is 46 amps max so there is 138 amps if all
>>>>>>>>> three thrusters are wide open. I doubt I would ever have all
>>>>>>>>> three maxed for more than short spurts but want to be repaired
>>>>>>>>> for the worst case scenario like if I am bucking a strong
>>>>>>>>> current.
>>>>>>>>> I also will be running 6 outside LED lights off the same bank
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> can dim them and selectively use them, all on at max would be
>>>>>>>>> about a
>>>>>>>>> 16.6
>>>>>>>>> amp draw as well. Now most of the time I will be using the
>>>>>>>>> thrusters at minimal draw and not all 3 at the same time and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> 6 lights will probably never all be on at the same time.
>>>>>>>>> If everything was wide open, I would be pulling about 155 amps
>>>>>>>>> from a bank that has a reserve capacity of 125 so it would
>>>>>>>>> deplete the bank rather fast and may even damage the batteries
>>>>>>>>> due to a quick drain? So,,, first question...would 2 OTT wire
>>>>>>>>> be sufficient from battery source to bus
>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> long as I am not running full tilt on everythig and second...
>>>>>>>>> since I have to stick with a lead acid system due to design,
>>>>>>>>> can I get a group 27 battery that can deliver much more than
>>>>>>>>> the 125 amps I have on my boat?
>>>>>>>>> I also have the option of putting the battery selector switch
>>>>>>>>> on both banks if I have to but would rather deplete one bank at
>>>>>>>>> a time if can.
>>>>>>>>> Comments appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> Rick
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>>>> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 18:30:48 +0000 (UTC)
>>>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new gears
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>>>> Hi Ian,The gears you made for me arrived, and they are amazing! ?I
>>>> had no idea the fine detail capability. ?The timing is perfect also,
>>>> as I have just finished the gripper and need the wrist gears to
>>>> complete the connection. ?I might have it put together today for a
>>>> test.Thank you againHank
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>>>> From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles
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>>>> Well done Ian.
>>>> I have posted this before. It is of 3d propeller testing done here in
>>>> Auckland.
>>>> Their preference in the end was polycarbonate!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20160302-wooden-3d-printed-boat-prop-ma
>>>> k ers-pu t-filaments-to-the-test-with-surprising-results.html
>>>> Cheers Alan
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/11/2017, at 8:06 AM, irox via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great! Glad they got there safely.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if they work. If so I'll print up a slightly higher
>>>>> quality
>>>> set (probably a couple, for spares and destructive testing). I'll
>>>> also look into printing a set in nylon.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're most welcome. Thanks for all the videos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> Ian.
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>>>>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>> Sent: Nov 2, 2017 11:30 AM
>>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>>>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new gears
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>> The gears you made for me arrived, and they are amazing! I had no
>>>>> idea
>>>> the fine detail capability. The timing is perfect also, as I have
>>>> just finished the gripper and need the wrist gears to complete the
>>>> connection. I might have it put together today for a test.
>>>>> Thank you again
>>>>> Hank
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>>>> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 01:27:47 +0000 (UTC)
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>>>> To: irox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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>>>> Ian,The gears seem pretty tough, and I am sure they will stand up due
>>>> ?to the thickness. ?They machine nicely also, I was worried when I
>>>> put the gear in the lathe chuck, but is was fine. ?I machined the
>>>> bore out so it would slide nicely. ?Pitty I don't have the wrist
>>>> drive motor yet
>>> ;-( ?Hank
>>>> On Thursday, November 2, 2017, 1:06:29 PM MDT, irox via
>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> #yiv3031387229 #yiv3031387229 -- DIV {margin:0px;}#yiv3031387229 Great!?
>>>> Glad they got there safely.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if they work.? If so I'll print up a slightly higher
>>>> quality set (probably a couple, for spares and destructive testing).?
>>>> I'll also look into printing a set in nylon.
>>>>
>>>> You're most welcome.? Thanks for all the videos.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> ?Ian.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> Sent: Nov 2, 2017 11:30 AM
>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new gears
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,The gears you made for me arrived, and they are amazing! ?I
>>>> had no idea the fine detail capability. ?The timing is perfect also,
>>>> as I have just finished the gripper and need the wrist gears to
>>>> complete the connection. ?I might have it put together today for a
>>>> test.Thank you againHank
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