[PSUBS-MAILIST] 2017 Convention thoughts

Sun Mar 19 02:04:12 EDT 2017

Brian,

Approximate date for the convention would be sometime in July or August.  It would be determined by those who are planning to attend.  I think most of our fleet is near the east coast, but I am just putting this venue out there as potential choice.  I think Jim or Jon make the actual decisions.

Tim

From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
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Tim, 

             What is the approximate date for a convention ?

Brian

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 10:30:56 -0700

This permit was put in place because this lake is a National Park (no submersibles allowed without permit) and a dammed lake for hydro power and there is a risk of submarine vehicles getting mixed up in the power generation equipment.  The requirement for a permit is not a "No" but usually requires informing the authorities of the planned activities and getting them approved for the area of operation.  

I just now got off the phone with Acting Chief Ranger Charlie Hardy.  He said that the Sea Breacher subs are built in Redding and that they have a commercial use permit to operate those subs in Wiskeytown Lake.  For our convention dive we will need a special use permit, which should be no problem getting approved.  Ranger Hardy will email an application for the special use permit.  He was most helpful and encouraging with respect to us operating manned submersibles in Wiskeytown Lake.

It's not a gorgeous Florida reef, but a fresh water lake popular with divers due to decent 30 foot visibility.  I expect the bottom is most likely mud, but I can confirm that with locals.

What are everyone's opinions on having the convention at this location?

Tim

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It looks like the rule was enacted 7/1/2011 which places it about two months prior to the ten-year anniversary of the twin tower attacks.  If you recall, there was a lot of hub-bub circulating that some kind of attack was being planned on the tenth anniversary so this was probably a proactive restriction for that event.  I believe BIONIC DOLPHIN either operates or did a lot of testing in that lake and their activity may have contributed to such a rule.

Jon

On 2/25/2017 3:54 PM, River Dolfi via Personal_Submersibles wrote:

Just scanned through the Whiskeytown Lake website and found the list of park rules and regs.

§ 3.19
    May I operate a submersible within park waters?
    The use of manned or unmanned submersibles may only occur in accordance with a permit issued by the superintendent under § 1.6 of this chapter.

...So which one of you guys are responsible for that one?

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