[PSUBS-MAILIST] Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49, Issue 110

Sat Jul 22 13:33:40 EDT 2017

Thanks Mike.  Will add you to email list for dive logistics.  Please send your email address and PN.

BTW, this is not a Psub.org convention, just some Psubbers diving their boats in a great location.

Cliff

Cliff Redus

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 12:26 PM, peaceroom via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> I'll be there for diving support. Mike Patterson 
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>    1. Re: PSUBS in Islamorada FL (Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles)
>    2. Re: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49, Issue 109
>       (peaceroom via Personal_Submersibles)
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 12:38:35 -0400
> From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUBS in Islamorada FL
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> Hi Tim,
> 
> There's been lots of planning, but offline among those who expressed an
> interest in attending. To summarize, the dive dates are August 1-3. Snoopy
> is at the Suhr's but probably will not be diving. Shackleton has an issue
> that I will be trying to resolve doing canal tests, making use of the calm
> water, davits, and brain trust on hand. I suspect the issue is that some
> tanks are flooding faster than others. She takes a nose dive on submerging.
> I'm not sure the issue will be resolved, but the test location and friends
> on hand make it worth the trip. R300 will be there and is all systems go,
> but Cliff's challenge will most likely be habitability given the
> temperatures, so he'll try to do tows and transits submerged just to keep
> the cabin conditions manageable.
> 
> If anyone else is interested in joining us, now would be the perfect time
> to speak up.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Alec
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> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:13 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> > Are there any more details available for the PSUBS convention plans for
> > Islamorada in August?  Not that I can make it to the Florida Keys this
> > time, but I haven't noticed any discussion of late.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
> > bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *MerlinSub at t-online.de via
> > Personal_Submersibles
> > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 7:44 AM
> > *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> > personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes thats correct.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > -----Original-Nachricht-----
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> > Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> >
> > Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200
> >
> > Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <
> > personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >
> > An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
> > personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Carsten,
> >
> >
> >
> > Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal
> > submarines in the United States?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg C
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <
> > personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> > personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree.  Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?
> > The current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater
> > vessels and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make
> > some sense out of it all.
> >
> >
> > On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles
> > wrote:
> >
> > Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient.
> >
> >
> >
> > Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright
> > will kill all occupants instandly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble scooters
> > for untrained non diver tourist.
> >
> > We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carsten
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>     
> Still on for Tuesday plus 1 week. Check with Doug Suhr. Mike?
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> ?? 1. Re: Submersible Rules
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> ?? 2. PSUBS in Islamorada FL (T Novak via Personal_Submersibles)
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> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
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> Yes thats correct.
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> -----Original-Nachricht-----
> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200
> Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" 
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" 
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Carsten,
> 
> Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal submarines 
> in the United States?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg C
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles 
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> 
> 
> I agree.? Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?? The 
> current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater vessels 
> and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make some sense 
> out of it all.
> 
> 
> On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de <mailto:MerlinSub at t-online.de> 
> via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> 
> ??? Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient.
> ???? 
> ??? Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright
> ??? will kill all occupants instandly.
> ???? 
> ??? Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble
> ??? scooters for untrained non diver tourist.
> ??? We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do.
> ???? 
> ??? Carsten
> ???? 
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 08:13:19 -0700
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> Are there any more details available for the PSUBS convention plans for Islamorada in August?? Not that I can make it to the Florida Keys this time, but I haven't noticed any discussion of late.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] On Behalf Of MerlinSub at t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 7:44 AM
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> 
> 
> 
> Yes thats correct. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
> 
> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> 
> Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200
> 
> Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> 
> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Carsten,
> 
> 
> 
> Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal submarines in the United States?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Greg C
> 
> 
> 
> ? _____? 
> 
> From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I agree.? Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?? The current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater vessels and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make some sense out of it all.
> 
> 
> On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de <mailto:MerlinSub at t-online.de>? via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> 
> Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient. 
> 
> 
> 
> Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright will kill all occupants instandly. 
> 
> 
> 
> Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble scooters for untrained non diver tourist. 
> 
> We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do. 
> 
> 
> 
> Carsten 
> 
> 
> 
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