[PSUBS-MAILIST] gluing aluminum

Fri Dec 22 21:05:06 EST 2017

I have a suspicion that the aluminum would need anodized before gluing.
Anodizing helps paint to stick to aluminum, so I imagine it would help glue
to stick.

River J Dolfi
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Hi All,I have an idea that requires glueing aluminum plates together. ?Has
anyone tried this? ?any success?Hank
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Lotus Cars famously have done that, introducing bonded aluminum chassis
with the Elise and continuing it on subsequent models. The reason is that
welding weakens the material, so if it were welded they would need to
increase the amount of material and it would eat up the weight savings.
Problem is, I don't know the specifics of the glue they use nor the
process.

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> I have an idea that requires glueing aluminum plates together.  Has anyone
> tried this?  any success?
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 Alec,My research so far shows that aerospace parts are glued also. ?I am
sure the Lotus folks are pretty closed lipped about how they do it. ?I will
do some testing, just checking with the group to save some time and
headache.What are you using for a ballast an now? ?or is it a surprise.Hank
    On Friday, December 22, 2017, 5:29:20 PM MST, Alec Smyth via
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 Lotus Cars famously have done that, introducing bonded aluminum chassis
with the Elise and continuing it on subsequent models. The reason is that
welding weakens the material, so if it were welded they would need to
increase the amount of material and it would eat up the weight savings.
Problem is, I don't know the specifics of the glue they use nor the
process.?
Best,Alec
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Hi All,I have an idea that requires glueing aluminum plates together.? Has
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Hank,
they glue steel laminations together in electric motor stacks so
I don't see why aluminium shouldn't glue together successfully.
Depending of course how you are gluing it. If you are laminating
sheets together they should be pretty strong.
When I was searching for a pvc glue for sealing my penetrator wires
I tested a number of glues people suggested, but the glue that was
used commercially on pvc boats won hands down. Worth researching
well.
Alan

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> On 23/12/2017, at 1:35 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> Alec,
> My research so far shows that aerospace parts are glued also.  I am sure
the Lotus folks are pretty closed lipped about how they do it.  I will do
some testing, just checking with the group to save some time and headache.
> What are you using for a ballast an now?  or is it a surprise.
> Hank
>
> On Friday, December 22, 2017, 5:29:20 PM MST, Alec Smyth via
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Lotus Cars famously have done that, introducing bonded aluminum chassis
with the Elise and continuing it on subsequent models. The reason is that
welding weakens the material, so if it were welded they would need to
increase the amount of material and it would eat up the weight savings.
Problem is, I don't know the specifics of the glue they use nor the process.
>
> Best,
> Alec
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 6:57 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have an idea that requires glueing aluminum plates together.  Has
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> Hank
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