[PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!
David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles
personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Fri Aug 25 11:52:52 EDT 2017
Thanks Scott.
Best Regards,
David Colombo
804 College Ave
Santa Rosa, CA. 95404
(707) 536-1424
www.SeaQuestor.com
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:35 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> David,
>
> I talked with KISS rebreather and they are going to set up a coupon code
> to get the special pricing. He will get back with me on it here soon. The
> offer will only be good for about a month or so, then the pricing will be
> retail. The delivery time looks like 6 weeks. He is getting me dimensions
> and I will post them on the psubs forum soon.
>
> Thank you,
> Scott Waters
>
> > -------Original Message-------
> > From: David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!
> > Sent: Aug 24 '17 14:16
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> > Are you taking orders or deposits for the unit. Any ideas as to the
> > delivery schedule of the units? Any dimensions and or pictures would
> > help for placement in the SeaQuestor would be helpful.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > David Colombo
> >
> > 804 College Ave
> > Santa Rosa, CA. 95404
> > (707) 536-1424
> > www.SeaQuestor.com
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:24 AM, via Personal_Submersibles
> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hank,
> > >
> > > I completely understand being so into the project a lot of "what
> > > if" scenarios are never considered. That is one of the reasons, of
> > > the 14 people that work on Pisces VI, one of them does nothing but
> > > safety and writing the operations manual. The Pisces VI used a EBA
> > > built by Drager called the Oxy-SR 30M. It is basically the same
> > > thing KISS and Pisces developed except it only lasted 30 minutes,
> > > did not have the ability to hook up comms, and costs more.
> > >
> > > The Pisces VI has a lot more safety devices built into her, most of
> > > which are over kill for a Psub, but this is an area where I see most
> > > of the psubs lacking (including my own KW350 "Trustworthy").
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Scott Waters
> > >
> > >> -------Original Message-------
> > >> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
> > > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > >> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> > > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!
> > >
> > >> Sent: Aug 24 '17 05:40
> > >>
> > >> Scott,
> > >> I have to admit that I have not put so much thought into that
> > >> scenario. I think because I (we) spend so much time and effort
> > >> installing wiring with fuses and breakers that I have a false
> > > sense of
> > >> security where short circuits are concerned. I am glad you
> > > brought it
> > >> up and I am sure in the future you will be pointing out more
> > > risk
> > >> assessments. We are lucky to have you with us.
> > >> What did Pisces VI have originally?
> > >> Hank
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 11:22:46 PM MDT, via
> > >> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I guess I should mention some other reasons why this unit is
> > > worth it
> > >> *It has a 3hr breath time
> > >> *It can be hooked up to u/w comms to keep communications with
> > > the
> > >> surface while still breathing safe air
> > >> *It is compact (unlike the BioMarine units that a lot of
> > > submarines
> > >> use for their EBAs)
> > >> *Fully enclosed mask which makes donning way faster than a reg
> > > and
> > >> mask that most BIBS use
> > >> *All parts are professionally built to the KISS standard. (If
> > > you have
> > >> ever dove a KISS rebreather you will know what I mean
> > >>
> > >> Probably one of the most important things I learned at my month
> > > at sea
> > >> with Woods Hole and the DSV Alvin is the importance of actually
> > >> running realistic drills of emergency situations. This was made
> > >> bluntly obvious to me when we really started talking about it.
> > > For
> > >> example has anyone on psubs actually done a smoke in cabin drill
> > > from
> > >> operational depth? I think if you do you will be shocked. Trying
> > > to
> > >> don a BIBS and mask, ensure passengers get their BIBS and mask
> > > donned,
> > >> locate the issue, isolate the issue, get the submarine on it's
> > > way up,
> > >> communicate with the surface, on the way up (which is probably
> > > at a
> > >> full blow), slow the accent, vent the cabin from the BIBS at a
> > > slow
> > >> rate so you don't blow a viewport or blow the hatch dogs and
> > > flood the
> > >> submarine at 10 to 30 feet likely drowning everyone. Now that
> > > you have
> > >> done this with a drill add the stress level and I think you will
> > > see
> > >> why it is unacceptable. I know there was a comment on a hour of
> > > BIBS
> > >> usage only brought up the p!
> > >> ressure about 15psi. I would challenge you to do the calcs to
> > > see at
> > >> what pressure a viewport or the hatch fails from internal
> > > pressure. I
> > >> think again you will be shocked.
> > >>
> > >> I have learned a lot in my career with submarines and I know
> > > psubs is
> > >> committed to safety above all other and I would love to help
> > > make it
> > >> safer. This is the reason why I am pushing this so hard and
> > > sharing
> > >> the discount. If you take nothing else from this e-mail, then I
> > > urge
> > >> everyone to actually run their emergency plans under controlled
> > >> circumstances then evaluate afterwards and ask, "with the stress
> > > level
> > >> of a real situation, is this a good plan?".
> > >>
> > >> Thank you,
> > >> Scott Waters
> > >>
> > >> > -------Original Message-------
> > >> > From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles
> > >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > >> > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> > >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!
> > >> > Sent: Aug 23 '17 22:43
> > >> >
> > >> > Brian,
> > >> > I am not an expert on rebreathers but
> > >> > in a submarine, could you have a lung with full face mask & 3
> > > hoses
> > >> > attached to it. One hose pushes on to the submarines O2
> > > outlet,
> > >> > & the other 2 to your CO2 scrubber inlet & outlet. Manually
> > > control
> > >> > the volume of the lung or set up some sort of bellows add
> > > system!
> > >> > In a 1 ton volume submarine you would have over an hour of
> > >> breathing
> > >> > off a standard regulator & air before you doubled the
> > > pressure
> > >> inside
> > >> > the sub anyway.
> > >> > I am installing ptfe insulated wiring on the inside of my sub
> > > to
> > >> avoid
> > >> > any
> > >> > fires with that, but you can't guarantee what's in all the
> > >> electronics
> > >> > you
> > >> > put in your sub!
> > >> > Alan
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my iPad
> > >> >
> > >> > On 24/08/2017, at 3:11 PM, Brian Hughes via
> > > Personal_Submersibles
> > >> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > My friend Tom Rose's $100.00 USD rebreather. Unfortunately,
> > > a few
> > >> > > years ago he died of a heart attack. Tom was a character.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I've been contemplating making something similar out of a
> > > piece
> > >> of
> > >> > > acrylic pipe, like an old style canister light battery
> > > holder,
> > >> and
> > >> > > an MSA mask. Add a stub for O2 addition. Before I got into
> > > this
> > >> > > psubs hobby I use to build DIY mixed gas rebreathers.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20080420110800/http://www.
> atlimp.com/pend2.htm
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Get Outlook for Android
> > >> >
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