[PSUBS-MAILIST] "Torpedo"-build

[Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles]

Bottom line. A law-abiding citizen has the right to do whatever he 
wishes that does not violate the law. Anybody who threatens his right to 
do that is a lawbreaker.

Marc

On 9/13/2016 8:50 AM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> Actually a good friend of mine is a PhD who works for the Navy as a
> civilian and was commissioned some years ago to write a white paper on
> the threat of PSUBS (the boats, not the organization). He is not the
> slightest bit a paranoid person, on the contrary I respect him highly.
> Of course I have not actually seen his paper nor would he be able to
> tell me what is in it, but knowing him and also seeing we have not been
> regulated out of existence chances are it came to common sense
> conclusions. However, having public discussions about how to create an
> home built torpedo strikes me as just asking for trouble. Remember the
> guy who crashed his drone onto the White House lawn a couple of years
> ago? He was not a terrorist either, but I think other drone enthusiasts
> would be quite justified in thinking it was not a productive thing to
> do. Anyway, enough said... I hope not to get into a philosophical
> argument as I think we would agree it could go on for a hundred years.
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Marc de Piolenc via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
>
>     If you regulate your activities based on what a paranoid government
>     agent might perceive about them, you have surrendered your freedom
>     without a fight.
>
>     Build it!
>
>     Marc de Piolenc
>
>     On 9/13/2016 2:25 AM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
>
>         Hi Lasse,
>
>         You're very well regarded here, we all know you and have for a long
>         time. But may I suggest that in today's world someone who did
>         not know
>         you and came across such a project (for instance a Youtube video
>         of it)
>         might not react the same way? There are people whose full time
>         job is
>         spotting security threats, and what is really a completely innocent
>         initiative might cause them concern. They can be expected to err
>         on the
>         side of caution with regulations or prohibitions of some sort.
>         In short,
>         I would suggest for the sake of everyone, this idea although fun is
>         probably not advisable given the current state of affairs. It
>         pains me
>         to say so, because I used to build canons and bombs for fun when
>         I was a
>         12 year old, but times have changed.
>
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Alec
>
>         On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Lasse Schmidt Westrén via
>         Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>         <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>         <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>         <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>> wrote:
>
>             Hey guys,
>
>             My crew friends at submarine Malen are planning to build a
>             torpedo-ish machine to fool around with in the evenings.
>             We are thinking of taking a scuba-tank, connecting a simple
>         motor
>             from an air drill and connecting a propeller to it. We are
>         planning
>             to use RC for steering and heading hold via a gyro.
>             Have anyone tried and have input on this?
>
>             Cheers, Lasse
>
>
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