[PSUBS-MAILIST] Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 41, Issue 89

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Tue Nov 22 08:34:58 EST 2016 

Jerry,
Wow!  That's a big sub.  We would all love to see  some drawings whenever 
you're ready to share them.  How long is it?   Total displacement?
Jim
 
 
In a message dated 11/22/2016 7:10:36 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
personal_submersibles at psubs.org writes:

To  all.
When I started myu design I was at a 48" dia. hull. After reading the  
e-mails, I decided that I should go even bigger.
So my design grew to 72"  dia. hull. My plate thickness is 1" and very 
expensive. Lucky for me I worked  hard for a lot
of years so when I retired a few years back money was not a  problem. I'm 
not saying that I rich, but even with the outlay
of money that  this sub will be, I should be able to live comfortably. 
I have drawn the  complete sub up in Autodesk Inventor and assembles it. I 
am however starting  with a full sized mokeup.
I am 70 years old, I'm just hoping that I live  long enough to get it done.
Jerry

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 22:23:31 -0800
From: David Colombo via  Personal_Submersibles
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Jerry, I agree with Jim. My first full  scale mock up of the hull and
consoles, found myself climbing up on my work  bench on Sunday evening, the
family was upstairs in bed, my cell phone  sitting on the work bench. I
climbed into the front pilot position, slid  down into the seat, and my
moment of elation as to how it felt, turned into  terror, as I discovered
that I could not stand up to get out. Apperently I  neglected to measure the
distance from hip to knee, to bend and stand up.  So using the only tool I
could reach, because I was sitting on it was my  drill motor. I extracted
myself screw by screw until I could stand up.  Hence the hatch is now a
bigger diameter, the hull is also bigger, and  consoles have been
redesigned.  So I am a firm believer in full scale  mockups.

Best Regards,
David Colombo
On Nov 21, 2016 6:41 PM,  "via Personal_Submersibles" <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org>  wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> You mentioned that you've made a lot  of changes in your design over the
> past few months as we all do.   Of course that continues to happen during
> the build phase as  well.
>
> Instead of beginning the build phase with the hull, I  think it makes good
> sense to first construct all systems and  components and install and test
> them on a full size mockup.  It's  almost inevitable that the process of
> installing systems will cause  you to modify the mockup hull, add or move
> penetrations, etc. which is  a heck of a lot easier to do than modifying 
the
> real hull or having to  accept limitations which could have been avoided.
>
> Another  advantage is that once the hull is fabricated, it can go directly
> to  interior and exterior paint and corrosion proofing.  Move the systems 
 to
> the hull and you're getting close to done.
>
>  Cheers,
> Jim
>
> In a message dated 11/21/2016 6:42:38 P.M.  Central Standard Time,
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org  writes:
>
> Sounds good Jerry,
> hope you document it on the  psubs site.
> Sorry about all my typo errors in the last email. My  Yahoo
> mail is running like a pig, & suddenly doesn't reproduce  what
> I type etc.
> Alan
>
>
>
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> *From:* Jerry Koontz via  Personal_Submersibles <
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>  *To:* personal submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>;  personal
> submersibles-request  <personal_submersibles-request at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday,  November 22, 2016 12:34 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]  Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 41,
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>  Alan,
> The research that I have done indicates that the Lithium  Phosphate
> batteries do not have the thermal runaway
> that other  Lithium batteries do. Also they last for up to 3000 cycles
> where lead  acid batteries are much less,
> and that makes the cost lower. I am also  waiting to see what develops in
> the lithium batteries.
> Just  completed building a new poll shed for my build. Now I have to move
> my  lathe and mill into place. I have put in an
> overhead lift that runs  the entire length of the building.
> The first of my steel should be  here in about two or three weeks.
> Jerry
>
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>  Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 22:31:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From:  Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
>      <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles  General Discussion
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> Jerry,there are lots of  submersible manufacturers using lithium
> batteries.Nuytco are now using  them on there Deep Worker 2000.I have a 
48V
> 40ah lifepo4 battery pack  for testing my thrusters on.I am holding off 
from
> purchasing batteries  for my sub build till the last minute, as thereare
> promising  developments with Lithium Sulphur batteries. These have5 x the
>  capacity of lithium iron batteries. Currently they don't demonstrate
>  enoughcharging cycles to be used for electric vehicles, but there are
>  $millions being pouredinto research on this problem by several large
>  players throughout the World.Alan?
>
>        From: Jerry Koontz via Personal_Submersibles <
>  personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: personal submersibles  <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>; personal
> submersibles-request  <personal_submersibles-request at psubs.org>
> Sent: Tuesday,  November 22, 2016 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]  Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 41, Issue 
76
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> Hi  all,
>
> I have been in the process of design for sub now for  almost 9 months.
> I have been reading all the e-mails that come across  and have changed my
> design
> many times over the course of the  last months.
>
> I am planning on using Lithium Phosphate  batteries for the power. Lower
> weight per unit, physical size, and  power cycles.
> Has anyone tried this yet? What do you all think of this  idea.
> Looking forward to seeing your opinions.
>
> Jerry  Koontz
>
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> ?? 1. Re: Looking at starting up a Submersible  project
> ?? ? ?(emile via Personal_Submersibles)
> ?? 2. Re:  Looking at starting up a Submersible project
> ?? ? ?(Brian Hughes via  Personal_Submersibles)
> ?? 3. Re: Looking at starting up a Submersible  project
> ?? ? ?(James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles)
> ??  4. Re: Looking at starting up a Submersible project
> ?? ? ?(via  Personal_Submersibles)
> ?? 5. Re: compensating oil (Brian Cox via  Personal_Submersibles)
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>  Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:20:35 +0100
> From: emile  via Personal_Submersibles
>  ????????<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: "'Personal  Submersibles General Discussion'"
>  ????????<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Subject: Re:  [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking at starting up a Submersible
>  ????????project
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> Welcome Ludwig,
>
>  ?
>
> Good point to make a sgt.Peppers a little bigger. ?I rebfit  it and dived
> with the sgt. Peppers. For both is 560 mm a bit cramped.  650-700 mm hull
> dia would be fine. Easy to make is capable for 300  ft.
>
> Always good to look to K250 or other plans ?to make a  start.
>
> ?
>
> Regards, Emile van  Essen
>
> ?
>
> Van: Personal_Submersibles  
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> Namens via  Personal_Submersibles
> Verzonden: maandag 21 november 2016 1:58
>  Aan: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST]  Looking at starting up a Submersible project
>
> ?
>
>  Hello all,
>
> ?
>
> I'm looking into building a one  person submersible next year but need 
some
> help getting started.  ?
>
> ?
>
> The plane is to build it around the size  of the Sgt. Peppers submersible
> but a little bigger. ?(I want it  smaller than the K-250). ?Also I'm 
looking
> at having a working depth  at around 150-200 feet. ?Any suggestions on 
where
> to get started?  ?Should I by the plans for the K-250 and make it smaller?
>
>  ?
>
> I don't know if it helps or not but I'm located in Lawrence,  Kansas. ?
>
> ?? ? ? ? ? ?(And I won't be the first person to  build a submersible in
> Kansas because it looks like that there's a man  (Scott Waters) from 
Salina,
> KS that built a k-350.)
>
>  ?
>
> If you guys have any questions, I would be happy to answer  those for you.
>
> ?
>
> Thanks,
>
>  Ludwig Johanning
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> ?
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> I know of an  original VAST boat someone is trying to sell out here on the
> East  Coast.
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> I think emile has a small ish boat requiring  refurbishment for sale?
> Probably worth the cost of shipping it over  the pond to not have to build
> from scratch.
>
> On 21  November 2016 at 13:51, Brian Hughes via Personal_Submersibles <
>  personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> > I know of an  original VAST boat someone is trying to sell out here on 
the
> > East  Coast.
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> >
> > Get Outlook for Android  <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
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> Date: Mon,  21 Nov 2016 09:55:25 -0500
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> That really doesn't help me much  because I'm planning on moving across 
the
> pond in around two  years!
>
>
> I'm looking at a small project that would teach  me all the systems so 
when
> I move across the pond, I would like to  build something along the 
Euronaut
> size or a tiny bit  smaller.
>
>
> I've also debated if I should do a wet-sub  instead because if I go that
> route, I wouldn't have to build a  pressure hull. ?That would only limit 
me
> down to 130 foot allowed for  recreational diving.
>
>
>  -Ludwig
>
>
>
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>  From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <
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> Sent: Mon,  Nov 21, 2016 8:44 am
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>
> I think emile has a  small ish boat requiring refurbishment for sale?
> ?Probably worth the  cost of shipping it over the pond to not have to 
build
> from  scratch.
>
>
> On 21 November 2016 at 13:51, Brian Hughes  via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>  wrote:
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> I know of an original VAST boat someone is trying to  sell out here on the
> East Coast.
>
>
>
> Get  Outlook for Android
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