[PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers

Thu May 19 15:36:00 EDT 2016

Scott do a search on ebay MINN KOTA TRAXXIS TROLLING MOTOR MAIN CONTROL
BOARD PN# 2184017 OR 2184027 .  These are for sell every day.

Rocker switch is normally used when  you are using a reversing contactor to
change the polarity to the DC motor. If you are going to use a motor
controller like shown above, then you would only use the potentiometer on
each controller or a joy stick replacing the pot for a PLC interfacing
between the joystick and motor controller to change direction.  May you
could the switch for some other function on the boat.

Cliff

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Do you have a link to where to buy them? Can I still use my rocker switch
> that I am currnetly using (forward/reverse).
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
> Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Date: 05/19/2016 9:59 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>
> Scott.  I would try one of the MC 101 motor controllers for each vertical
> thruster.  They should work well for this application.  The motor
> controller has a soft start which should solve the fuse blowing.  You don't
> need a reversing contactor with these controllers.  When the pot is near
> the center of its taper (2.5vdc) the motor to the thruster (10AWG) are also
> connected with 1/4" spade connectors.
>
> Cliff
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:53 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> Alec,
>>
>> I am pretty sure that is correct. The side thrusters are 14.5 amp 36V and
>> I believe 1/3 horse and the rear thruster is 74 amp 36 volt and 3 horse. I
>> may have to take them apart to look at the plates on them again. The
>> problem I am having is the spike from on/off in either forward or reverse
>> frequently pops the fuse. Is a motor controller the best way to fix this or
>> is there a better way such as a capacitor? DC electrical motors and
>> engineering are my two weak subjects in submarines.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Scott Waters
>>
>> >  -------Original Message-------
>> >  From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>> >  Sent: May 18 '16 20:35
>> >
>> >  Scott are you sure those motors only pull 15 amps? It seems very
>> >  little for a stonking big piece of hardware like that, but maybe the
>> >  motor inside the can is smaller that one would expect. Consider the
>> >  101's also run at 36 volts but pull three times the current. Anyway if
>> >  the current draw is correct you would have no problem running them off
>> >  the standard MK controller. You could even run both of them off a
>> >  single controller, although you would need some switches or relays to
>> >  reverse them independently. But the MK controllers are cheap, so maybe
>> >  just provide each thruster its own speed control.
>> >
>> >  Best,
>> >
>> >  Alec
>> >
>> >  On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >  > Scott,
>> >  > thinking more about it. That Kelly controller requires a separate
>> >  > reverse contactor & reverse switch.
>> >  > (they sell them)
>> >  > Also you need to buy their connectors to connect to the computer to
>> >  > program it. The wiring diagram
>> >  > is for a key start, which is a solenoid switch, so you have to work
>> >  > out how to wire it differently if
>> >  > you don't want a key start.
>> >  > You sound like you are within the parameters of a MK 101 motor
>> >  > controller. I am not familiar
>> >  > with it but Cliff & Alec are. I believe you can just plug in the
>> >  > right joystick with spring to centre
>> >  > & get forward & backward on that same axis. The MK sounds like it
>> >  > would be a lot simpler to set up.
>> >  > Alan
>> >  >
>> >  > -------------------------
>> >  > FROM: Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  > TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  > SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:08 AM
>> >  >
>> >  > SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>> >  >
>> >  > No, they are Kitteredge originals
>> >  > Thanks,
>> >  > Scott Waters
>> >  >
>> >  > Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
>> >  >
>> >  > -------- Original message --------
>> >  > From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  > Date: 05/18/2016 3:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> >  > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>> >  >
>> >  > Scott,
>> >  > are they Minn kota motors?
>> >  > Alan
>> >  >
>> >  > -------------------------
>> >  > FROM: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  > TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  > SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:29 AM
>> >  > SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>> >  >
>> >  > Thanks Alan
>> >  >
>> >  > -Scott Waters
>> >  >
>> >  >> -------Original Message-------
>> >  >> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>> >  >> Sent: May 18 '16 13:45
>> >  >>
>> >  >> Scott,
>> >  >> I would say something like this item.
>> >  >>
>> >  >
>> >
>> http://kellycontroller.com/kds36100e100a24v-36v-mini-brushed-controller-p-270.html
>> >  >> Kelly will give you advice on choosing a suitable controller &
>> >  > they
>> >  >> normally respond the
>> >  >> same day. They say the controller should be 2-3 x the power of
>> >  > the
>> >  >> motor.
>> >  >> When I bought my Brushless motor controller I found I couldn't
>> >  >> reverse off a joy stick.
>> >  >> They had a joystick port but just for forward control. I was
>> >  > required
>> >  >> to pay more to get the same
>> >  >> unit programmed to do this. It is a bit ambiguous how they word
>> >  > this
>> >  >> option in the manual.
>> >  >> I saw those Pisces subs on Oahu a couple of years back as has
>> >  > David
>> >  >> C. They were having
>> >  >> funding problems at the time. There are normally turtles in the
>> >  > water
>> >  >> by the wharf & a hole off
>> >  >> to the left that has some resident reef sharks. The guys will
>> >  > point it
>> >  >> out.
>> >  >> Cheers Alan
>> >  >>
>> >  >> -------------------------
>> >  >> FROM: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:42 AM
>> >  >> SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>> >  >
>> >  >>
>> >  >> I am looking for a motor controller for my two side thrusters. I
>> >  >> currently have it on a off/on switch and it blows fuses from the
>> >  >> spike. I have a variable controller for my rear thruster that
>> >  > works
>> >  >> well. The motors are 14.5 amp each and are 36 volt.
>> >  >>
>> >  >> Thank you,
>> >  >> Scott Waters
>> >  >>
>> >  >>> -------Original Message-------
>> >  >>> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
>> >  >>> Sent: Apr 29 '16 15:34
>> >  >>
>> >  >>>
>> >  >>> Alec,
>> >  >>> one thing that wasn't obvious with my KBS mini controller
>> >  > purchase
>> >  >>> was that if you want to run forward / reverse off one axis of a
>> >  >>> joystick,
>> >  >>> you have to specify this option. It costs you an extra $26- &
>> >  > is a
>> >  >>> software change they make. They call this an electric boat
>> >  > function.
>> >  >>> Alan
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