[PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Wed Mar 2 08:07:17 EST 2016

Sean,How far apart will the o-rings be to give you adequate area to pull a vacuum against.  Hank 

    On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 6:04 AM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

 The all-round white light is just a convenient (in some cases) way of combining the 225° white masthead light (indicating a power driven vessel), with the 135° white stern light into a single lamp. I am not aware of specific prescriptions in the international colregs for submarines. I thought amber strobes denoted ACV (hovercraft)?Sean

On March 2, 2016 5:12:52 AM MST, John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
Antoine The lights show side lights (red and green), masthead light (lower white) special sub strobe (amber) and range light higher (white light) for vessels over 150' which is not always used on subs.  Your boat is only required to display Port (Red) and Starboard (Green) side lights (For small boat under 40' combo light OK) and one all around (360 Deg.) white light. If underway after sunset or in reduced visibility. John K.(203) 414-1000   On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 05:05 AM, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles wrote:  
ok thank youthe 3 lights that the military subs use and that are! visibleon the last link had me confused. 
in my case I am just less than 7m and less than 7kt so all round white light would be enough
regardsAntoine

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Here they are:   http://www.c-dynamics.co/images/products/Lighting/C-Dynamics_Hella-Marine-Lighting_IMO-COLREG-72-Lights-Visibility-Powerboats.jpg http://content.westmarine.com/wm-img/westadvisor/articles/Navigation-lights-1.jpg http://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0009/117567/Power-Vessels.png http://img.bhs4.com/E7/E/E7E547B242CDC4C0A69BEFECF2FD2A5973D91A91_large.jpg http://rlv.zcache.com/navigation_lights_international_rules_poster-rbe7a13f840aa4bb8b56f61d6d50afeab_i1021_8byvr_1024.jpg vbr Carsten   -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lightsDatum: 2016-03-01T01:16:27+0100Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>An: "PSUBS, Inc." <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>   Antoine Colregs allow for a vessel under 40' to display a combo red and green  and an all around (360 deg) white to replace the masthead and stern lights. John L.(203)414-1000  On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 05:53 PM, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles wrote:  
Hi Carsten thanks for bringing this subject up. 
where did you find these rules for ligthing subs?  international or european or german ones?  -i tried in colreg rules online but  could not find text for subs travelling on surface-I found a reference to sub on some of the more comprehensive summary drawings showing all sorts of vessels (http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html). Subs to come in with left green side lights, as well as 3 mast lights white 225° /amber 360° /white 225°-then the colreg rules for vertical separation of lights seem to say lower mast light 2m above deck mini, then other two lights at least 1m from each other (2m if boat over 20m long)all in all this makes a christmas tree 4 m high from top deck...-then also some online chat talking about exceptions for subs for height above water.  for my litttle 6m boat I was planning to use off the shelf lights (2nm) and fit it in the acrylic tube which serves as mast and buoy (which i found the inspiration for looking at your videos!!), with its own power and IR remote switchbut it is only 1m long, not 4...  regardsAntoine   
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:47 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Hmm.
 Toplight              245Anchor Light       215Sternlight           230Strobelight   abt. 250Portside light      215Starboard light.   215  1370 Euro   - 1500  USD  But on a 1-3 seater Psub you can run with just One Anchor light and one combination Position ligh red and green Together 215 +  239 = 454 Euro - 500 USD    -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lightsDatum: 2016-02-29T21:21:36+0100Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>   The Lopo lights at rated for 600 m. A full setup for a vessel under 20 m with the special sub Strobe is about $2,300. John K.(203) 414-1000
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On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Looked them up, and OUCH. About USD400 each. Carsten wasn't kidding. Best,
Alec
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:38 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

they are called Lopolight. But wait one season for our results after diving..
 http://www.lopolight.com/ They are very expensive too..     -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lightsDatum: 2016-02-29T08:42:49+0100Von: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>An: "PSubs" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>   Carsten,        Are those new navigation lights something that you guys made?   or adapted from some existing lights? Brian Cox
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