[PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Tue Mar 1 10:50:04 EST 2016

Hi Antoine, the rules for sub are the same as for any other surface vessel.

Just that some nation run a orange stroboscope (flash) light addirional or 
there (military )subs.

You have to run lights if you try to run the boat in darkness or fog etc.

At daylight for a daycruiser are no lights required.

At least you have to have a white handlamp on board to show you (sport) 
boat.

The rules reference different about the length of the vessel an the type.

Any broschure about sportboats from you sportclub, goverment or coastguard 
can explain the rules for small boats.

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Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Datum: 2016-02-29T23:57:37+0100

Von: "Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles" 
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An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" 
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Hi Carsten 
thanks for bringing this subject up. 

where did you find these rules for ligthing subs?  international or 
european or german ones? 

-i tried in colreg rules online but  could not find text for subs 
travelling on surface
-I found a reference to sub on some of the more comprehensive summary 
drawings showing all sorts of vessels (
http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html
<http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html> ). Subs to 
come in with left green side lights, as well as 3 mast lights white 225° 
/amber 360° /white 225°
-then the colreg rules for vertical separation of lights seem to say lower 
mast light 2m above deck mini, then other two lights at least 1m from each 
other (2m if boat over 20m long)
all in all this makes a christmas tree 4 m high from top deck...
-then also some online chat talking about exceptions for subs for height 
above water. 

for my litttle 6m boat I was planning to use off the shelf lights (2nm) and 
fit it in the acrylic tube which serves as mast and buoy (which i found the 
inspiration for looking at your videos!!), with its own power and IR remote 
switch
but it is only 1m long, not 4...

regards
Antoine

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:47 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de
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personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > 
wrote:

  Hmm.

  Toplight              245

  Anchor Light       215

  Sternlight           230

  Strobelight   abt. 250

  Portside light      215

  Starboard light.   215

  1370 Euro   - 1500  USD

  But on a 1-3 seater Psub you can run with just

  One Anchor light and one combination Position ligh red and green

  Together 215 +  239 = 454 Euro - 500 USD

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  Datum: 2016-02-29T21:21:36+0100

  Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" <
  personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
  >

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  The Lopo lights at rated for 600 m. A full setup for a vessel under 20 m
  with the special sub Strobe is about $2,300.

  John K.
  (203) 414-1000

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <
  personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
  > wrote:

      Looked them up, and OUCH. About USD400 each. Carsten wasn't kidding.

      Best,

      Alec

      On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:38 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de
      <mailto:MerlinSub at t-online.de> via Personal_Submersibles <
      personal_submersibles at psubs.org
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        they are called Lopolight. But wait one season for our results
        after diving..

        http://www.lopolight.com/ <http://www.lopolight.com/>

        They are very expensive too..

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        Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

        Datum: 2016-02-29T08:42:49+0100

        Von: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" <
        personal_submersibles at psubs.org
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        An: "PSubs" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
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        Carsten,        Are those new navigation lights something that you
        guys made?   or adapted from some existing lights?

        Brian Cox

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