[PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub

Thu Jan 8 20:02:11 EST 2015

Brian,
How round did you sphere turn out.  
Hank--------------------------------------------
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 Scott,   These guys did
 my 60" hemispheres, 3/8" nominal thickness, A516
 -70,  it started out at 5/8" before they formed
 it.  http://www.uniformcomponents.com/ Brian

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 Cool. Thanks Vance.
 Yea, where I am stuck currently is the pressure calcs on 516
 gr 70. My question was how thick of 516 gr 70 for a 60"
 sphere would it have to be to handle 3300 feet (2000 psi for
 safety margin. My second question is how positivly or
 negatively boyant would that be. I can reaily get
 hemispherical heads of 516 gr
 70.Thanks,Scott Waters

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 You'll get plenty of encouragement from us,
 I would think, along with an appropriate amount of razzing.
 Don't worry about the nay-sayers. I would remind you
 that Karl Stanley has been listening to that shit for years.
 Well, not listening exactly, because he went ahead in spite
 of them, and looks pretty cheerful about the results. Who
 wouldn't be?

 And
 speaking of Idabel, have you thought about multiple spheres?
 I talked to Karl in New Orleans a couple of years ago, and
 did some figuring afterwards. A couple of intersecting
 5' spheres  with a free flooding sail and a few small
 cameras might get you a 5-tonnish sub. Do the big Perry
 style viewport in front with maybe some 12-inchers on either
 side in both hulls? Maybe a dome hatch/conn on top in the
 back sphere? It might need some foam to float, but that
 isn't much of a problem these days. Hmm.

 Idabel's aft sphere and conning tower are
 A516GR70, in case you were wondering. You'd have to run
 some numbers. Maybe .75" wall? I'm not sure.
 Something to think about, anyway. And small is good for
 psubs, right?

 Vance

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 Thanks Alan!!! That really means alot to me. In my
 hobby, I don't get alot of encouragement from others
 untill I am sucsessful. It is nice to have it along the
 way!

 Thanks again!,

 Scott Waters

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 From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles  

 Date:01/08/2015  2:13 PM  (GMT-06:00) 

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 Scott,

 you made a K350 in record time &
 you are relatively young as a sub builder.

 I would encourage you to build, as you
 will increase your

 knowledge & skill base in the
 process & save money. Who knows where 

 it will go from there.

 Alan

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 Scott,

 If you are okay with
 purchasing a 1000m sub rather than building it, then what
 are your thoughts on the Triton line?  Pricey?

 Tim

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 January-07-15 12:07 PM
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 Hank,

 The records I have of Pisces say they are made of
 HY-100 and capable to 2000 meters. 

 1000 feet isn't enough of a challenge for me. My
 goal is 3,300 feet or more, but may have no choice to
 shallow it up because of material, but we will see. The plan
 is to have enough redundancy and enough safety features like
 jettisonable manipulator arms and even a jettisonable
 personel sphere that it is as safe as it can be at that
 depth.

 Thanks,

 Scott Waters

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 From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles 
 Date:01/07/2015 1:39 PM (GMT-06:00) 
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 new sub 

 Scott,
 I thought Vance said
 they were 516-70, I must have read it wrong.  I don't
 know what your planning  with a 1,000m capable sub.  I
 can't imagine diving that deep with no means of
 rescue.  Are you planning on two subs maybe?  Don't
 get me wrong, I love the idea.  What about copying one in
 516-70 and live with the depth capability.  I would imagine
 you could see 1,000 feet plus, a very respectable and
 affordable Psub. 
 Hank--------------------------------------------
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 PM

 I would
 love to, except a Pisces is HY-100, which I am
 having a
 terrible time getting that
 material. I'd love to go on a
 deep dive
 with you though! I am going to Seneca lake New
 York this April for some deep diving. Might be
 also going to
 lake Michigan this year
 too.Thanks,Scott Waters

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 Date:01/07/2015  12:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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 Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new
 sub 

 Hi Scott,
 Maybe you could save some money and time if you
 just copy a
 pices sub. Check with the folks
 at Nuytco, maybe you can
 crawl around the
 sub with caliper in hand.  Perhaps you
 could even look at the drawings, I am sure they
 are with the
 sub.  When your done measuring
 the sub, swing by and we
 can go for a spin
 in a deep lake.
 Hank 
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