[PSUBS-MAILIST] penetration schedule

hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Fri Aug 14 10:40:26 EDT 2015


A good diver friend told me carry stories about O2, that is why I still have an O2 bottle with the regulator right on the tank.  I have a second tank for back up.   I want to move the supply outside for more volume, but have been to nervouse about doing it wrong.Hank 


     On Friday, August 14, 2015 8:16 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
   

 Hi Brian, jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com Also, I agree with Alec.  He pointed me to that book some years ago and after reading it, I have a great deal of respect for high pressure O2. RegardsJames
On 14 August 2015 at 14:47, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

James,  What is your email address?

Brian

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From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] penetration schedule
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:36:21 +0100

Brian,
The K boats have a 1.25" bronze fitting that passes through a SS through hull.   You can remove it for cleaning. Contact me off list and I can send you a dwg.

RegardsJames
On 14 August 2015 at 04:58, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Hank,             Can I put a bronze bushing in a ss coupling, if that is necessary for the O2?   Does the O2 need to not go through stainless?    I had a bad experience connecting stainless nipples into a stainless 90,  it galled so bad that I ruined the nipple getting it out of there. Maybe I just need to use more Teflon tape. brian   

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From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] penetration schedule
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:46:45 -0700

Hank,             It seems to me that it's easier to weld in couplings rather than nipples, I suppose it's just preference.   I sort of have a trim tank already with my forward hard ballast tank, I'm just not sure at this point whether or not that will be enough control.  A way to deal with varying loads is probably something I need to address, but I don't want to give up valuable cabin space for it.    Brian

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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] penetration schedule
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:23:16 +0000 (UTC)

Brian,I would add a few nipples and cap them off, you will want them down the road.A trim tank may be a good idea for such a heavy sub, unless you have real powerful vertical thrusters.  I find when I take a passenger, even my daughter Roman who is light as a feather, I am always quite over weight.  That is no problem at all in a Gamma size sub because the vertical thrusters have enough jam to stop the sub hitting bottom.  A trim tank would be good to keep you closer to ideal weight, or have lots of small weights to take out.  I foolishly made two rather heavy lead weights.   Are you running your O2 through a ss nipple, is that okay, I am planning to do that for external O2.  I remember talk about the K subs needing a Bronze fitting or something like that.Hank 


     On Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:52 AM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
   

 Hank,            Here are all my penetrations: Front hard ballast tank 1.   flood valve -  1/2" ss rod thru hull  2.   vent valve 3.  air inject    -  ss coupling Main ballast tank (soft) 1. flood valve  - ss 1/2" rod thru hull 2. air inject mechanical penetrations:  1.  front flaps       - ss 1/2" rod thru hull  (all)  2. back flaps  3. motor turning   ( steering ) Breathing Oxygen  -  3/4" coupling  or smaller  ( will bush) Flood Valve  - 1 1/2"  - ss coupling  ( near bottom) main ballast HP air in   -   #1 - 3/4"  ss coupling  #2 - 3/4"     ( will have bushings to 1/2" or smaller)  Gauges  1.  Temperature  - 1/2"   ss coupling   2.  Pressure -    1/2" Release buoy   1.  1/2" SS rod thru hull Equalizing valve    1.  3/4" coupling Drop weight   1.  7/8" ss rod thu hull Hatch dog thu hull 1.  7/8" ss rod  Is there anything that I obviously forgot ??      All my electrical will be going through a separate viewport fitting. So far I have the front trim, hatch , but no air yet. Not sure if I want to have a small trim tank in the main cabin or not.  Brian      
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