[PSUBS-MAILIST] cart last days

Tue Oct 28 08:31:11 EDT 2014

Tim,
You bet, my cart will float with 4 inches free board when ballasted down, and 20 inches free board when ballasted up. 
I like your idea for trailer drop off protection.  You could also consider an idler wheel ahead of the front wheel.  
I agree tacks would be soooo cool but not practical because of the weight.  I am using my original mobile home wheels with new centers welded in to match the GM bolt pattern.   A set of tracks would weigh 1,100 lbs also the power needed to steer rubber tracks on concrete or pavement is huge compared to rubber tires.   The first time I get stuck though,  I may change my mind.
Hank

On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:52 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Hank,

Will the cart float on its own?  

I did a survey dive at the launch ramp in Otter Lake, outside Princeton BC, as a potential sub dive site.  The launch ramp was concrete and reasonably steep.  The trouble was that at about three feet deep the concrete stopped and the bottom dropped off almost vertically to 20 feet.  A couple of young people with a ski boat on a tandem trailer dropped the forward wheels of the drop off and the all the weight was taken up by the fender brackets, which bent up.  Further damage resulted when they dragged the frame and fender brackets back up the drop off to get the wheels back on the ramp.  A pricey day.  Hence the reasoning behind my thought to weld a skid plate from the front of the trailer frame to the front of the wheels below the wheels' equator to allow the trailer to ride over the drop off without damage.  For our long tongue trailers I think it's a necessity.

It sounds like your cart will happily drive off the drop off and remain floating while the sub is launched and recovered.  Sweet indeed.  Tracks, you say?  Now that's way cool.

Tim

From:Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] On Behalf Of James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: October-27-14 3:11 AM
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] cart last days

Sounds good Hank.  Looking forward to seeing it.  
James

On 27 October 2014 00:58, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

>Hi Tim,
>Thanks' I think it will be awesome, I have spent some time standing on the shore of different lakes wondering how I can get my sub in.
>Hank--------------------------------------------
>On Sun, 10/26/14, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] cart last days
> To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 8:25 PM
>
> Brilliant, Hank.
>
> Looking forward to seeing the
> results.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
> On Behalf Of hank pronk via
> Personal_Submersibles
> Sent: October-26-14
> 5:51 AM
> To: Personal Submersibles General
> Discussion
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] cart
> last days
>
>
> Douglas,
> Necessity is the
> mother of invention. I have driven to lakes only to find
> I
> can not launch.  It is time to get
> serious about L&R I would do track drive
> but it is to heavy.
> Hank 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 10/25/14, Douglas Suhr via
> Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] cart last days
>  To:
> "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>  Received: Saturday, October 25, 2014, 8:55
> PM
>
>  Hank,
>
> I've gotta hand it to you, you've got the courage
> to  go where no one has
> gone before! Sounds
> like a psubber's  dream for ramp L&R. I'm sure
> you'll
> keep us  up-to-date with photos,
> won't you. ~ Douglas S.
>    
>  On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at
>  6:21
> PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>  wrote:
>  I just
>  pushed my launch cart into the shop for the
> last time.  Tomorrow it will be
> reborn. 
> The cart is getting a new rear  axel that steers via hyd
> cylinder,
> the front is getting a
>  1/2 ton chev differential with a hydraulic
> motor to drive  it.  The cart
> then gets
> two dual chamber pontoons that act  as ballast tanks.  On
> top of
> one pontoon will be a 6 1/2 hp 
> Honda motor that drives a hyd pump to power
> and steer the  cart,  as well as a 24v
> alternator to charge my sub
> batteries.  I
> will be able to drive the cart with the sub  on it down
> the
> boat ramp or beach or whatever into
> the  water.  The cart will stay anchored
> in the water, until I  am ready to put the sub
> on and drive back to my
> trailer.
>  SWEET
>
>
> Hank
>
>
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