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Sun Oct 26 21:06:53 EDT 2014

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Ken

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On Behalf Of Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:28 PM
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I just finished reading Piccard's recollections of the Ben Franklin drift
dive mission. I don't recall anything about compressing water.

Marc

On 10/27/2014 8:20 AM, Ken Martindale via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> Water is compressible, look how the submarine "Ben Franklin" did it. 
> Water is just not very compressible.
>
> Ken Martindale
>
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> On Behalf Of Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles
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> Compressing water will be quite some trick.
>
> Marc
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>
> On 10/26/2014 11:06 PM, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hank
>>
>> I agree a jet drive is the way to go did you not think that a jet ski 
>> drive was to small and would only drive a small craft. I intend to 
>> build a larger jet drive and compress the water. This will be easy 
>> and add power to the system the jet drive from a jet ski would not 
>> drive a sub but I am certain I can overcome the problems by building 
>> a larger jet
> drive and a compressor.
>> Thank you for your input and I will keep you informed as the project 
>> un folds.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>> Sent: 26 October 2014 12:42
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>>
>> Graham,
>> In the world of marine jet drive it is well known that jet drive 
>> takes two times the horse power to do the same job.  Jet drive is 
>> well suited to a craft that needs a shallow draft.  I think you will 
>> find it very complicated to control and it will be very inefficient. 
>> I have been down this road, I love the concept but abandoned it.  If 
>> you go forward may I suggest you start with a jet drive.  It is not a 
>> simple part to replicate.  The impeller tolerances are critical.  I 
>> have a jet unit on the shelf I could donate to your project.  The jet 
>> is from a jet ski. I would consider a single rear motor on a full gimbal.
>> Hank --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles 
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>    Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
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>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>    Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 7:39 AM
>>
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>>    #yiv9417249292  Hi   I am near the end of my build  of my k350 and
have
>> started to look at new designs I am  interested in building a flyer 
>> sub and have come up with a  design which will include a vectored 
>> motor drive this will  enable my flyer to hover and stop where ever I 
>> want. I have  designed a motor unit which will drive a fan type 
>> propeller  as an intake this will force water to the rear of the unit
>>     where it is compressed  then it is forced into ducting  which 
>> will take the water to four nozzles on the side of  the craft. The 
>> nozzles are able to turn three hundred and  sixty degrees  both side 
>> are independent of one another so  rolls will be achievable. The 
>> reason for a vectored motor is you only need one motor source and one 
>> power pack this will  ease the maintenance and increase the enjoyment 
>> of using  your sub. I am interested in the clubs thought of this kind  
>> of design.  Graham
>>
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