[PSUBS-MAILIST] Veiwport sealing

Tue Sep 17 19:25:50 EDT 2013

Thanks Greg,  Sleeping better.  Hugh

From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
On Behalf Of greg cottrell
Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 1:54 a.m.
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Veiwport sealing

Hi Hugh,

No worries-you did it the right way. There are definately advantages to
using a gasket, especially on smaller ports where you don't have to worry
about overpressure causing a blow like you might have with a big dome. If
you have a strong enough method of retaining the dome then that should not
be a problem anyway. Obviously, we are talking about domes with a square
edge ( not a conical seat).

Glueing it in is just a low tech method- but hey- back in the 80s there was
no psubs website for all this great info- I was just "wingin it". I probably
just asked George if he would glue it or use a gasket and he said "Glue it"!
George never did like o-rings....

Greg

From: Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton at gmail.com>
To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Veiwport sealing

Greg,  I was under the impression that flat viewports are best to have the
sealant between the gasket and the steel seat rather than on the acrylic.
Is this acceptable just on the one side.  Would this prevent having to
demolish the viewport in your case.  

Or did you have just the UV sealant and no gasket?  I am concerned at what I
have done which was on the gasket only.  Regards,  Hugh

From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
On Behalf Of greg cottrell
Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013 8:06 a.m.
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Veiwport sealing

Just a short commercial about 295 UV-

The first forward dome in my sub was bedded in 5200 urethane by 3m (which is
advertised as a marine sealant and used for acrylic ports on boats). About
two years went by and I noticed that the seal looked different. So I removed
the retainer and the dome literally fell out in my hands!  Wasn't expecting
that! Luckily I caught it before it hit the ground. The surface of the 5200
was perfectly smooth but it had lost all adhesion to the acrylic. It looked
like a rubber gasket.

I then removed all of the 5200 and re installed the dome with 295-UV (and
the black primer that goes with it).

The dome spent the next ten years installed with lots of dives and no
problems.

Eventually, because of its age, I decided to make a new one to replace it
(although it still looked like new). I tried to push the old dome out with a
4 x 4 and a hydraulic jack from the inside. It wouldn't even budge. I pushed
it so hard that the 4 x 4 was starting to split! The dome wasn't even
phased! After a couple of hours I finally took out the recipro saw and cut
the dome into radiating pieces to try to pry them out one at a time. Using a
crowbar, the acrylic was breaking into pieces but broken shards were still
stuck the sub! It took quite a few hours to remove the sikaflex- mostly with
wood chisels (heated with a torch) and a wire wheel.

So, all I can say is that if you install your domes or ports with 295-UV
those ports are NOT coming out without a lot of effort!

Greg

From: "MerlinSub at t-online.de" <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Veiwport sealing

http://www.svb24.com/en/sikaflex-295-uv-adhesive-for-plastic-window-panes.ht
ml

vbr carsten 

"swaters" <swaters at waters-ks.com> schrieb: 

Where do you buy the material you use to seal veiwports? I have heard
everyone saying sikaflex but there are alot of different kinds of sikaflex
and the one west marine sells says it is not compatible with plexiglass.
Help?

Thanks,

Scott Waters

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