[PSUBS-MAILIST] Best Steel to use for Sub Hull
Hugh Fulton
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Wed Oct 23 15:21:49 EDT 2013
Hi Phil, Thanks for that. I would think that the benefits would outway the cost increase. I am fighting weight and balance all the way.
Chs Hugh
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What were the specific challenges that you had to overcome to properly weld HY-80?
Sean
Phil Nuytten <phil at philnuytten.com> wrote:
Hi, Hugh
As Vance says, HY80 is somewhat challenging to weld – err, actually, that’s an understatement. We had to work with our fabricators to come up with a whole weld procedure to satisfy our classing agency. If you decide to go this route, let me know and we will share that procedure.
Phil
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I think it is somewhat demanding to weld, and expensive by comparison, of course. That said, there is a mountain of data available, as the pressure hulls of most modern US Navy submarines are built out of it.
Vance
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From: Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 10:15 pm
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Vance, Yep that sounds about right.
Are there any nasties to using it?
Chs Hugh
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Sent: Wednesday, 23 October 2013 1:37 p.m.
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Hugh,
HY-80 used to maintain the standard dimensions of a DW2000 with 50% depth increase.
Vance
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On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:13 PM, "Hugh Fulton" <hc.fulton at gmail.com> wrote:
Vance, I am sure I saw recently from Phil that he was using HY 80 but I don’t know what on. I did a calc on mine and I got a lot deeper using the HY 80 specs over the Grade 70.
Hugh
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One other thing comes to mind on this. Phil uses A516Gr70 in the DW2000s. It occurs to me that if there was a demonstrable benefit to A537, he would have used taken advantage of it. And he didn't, apparently. Interesting. Don't know why, though. Maybe it has something to do with welding stainless inserts in and the heat treatment thereof. Just a guess.
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