In a message dated 7/17/99 7:29:10 AM, Buchner@wcta.net writes: <<Um, where does 12" PVC come from? >> Any PVC pipe supplier should be able to find it in their catalogue. We have a plastics shop here that makes the stuff, and I drove by about two acres of stock, from 1" up to 15 or so, day before yesterday on the way to work on my sub. Vance