Dick, Rick and other interested psubbers, Okay, the fix is in. I'm going to Portland in June. Will be at the Double Tree Hotel--Lloyds Center either Sunday afternoon (6th) or Monday before noon (7th) and plan to stay through Wednesday at the earliest. Several seminars I want to see, plus the obligatory ogle at the trade show, but I'm up for jazz any night Rick. Even bought a new shirt, just in case I need a clean one. Vance