Yes, the case and heads could be machined from bronze. However I don’t know what the valves are made of. I had a look at the repair manual for them. Clever design but I think in looking at them again they would not be able to handle submersion which is what I want. They have ball bearings on the crankshaft. I don’t have the room in the cabin for the pumo so everything has to be immersible. I think the perfect pump is a hydraulic diaphragm pump for what we want. Yes, I am born & bred in NZ. As Alan says we don’t have accents and our globe has NZ at the top. ;) Hugh From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of ojaivalleybeefarm @dslextreme.com
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hard ballast inside P. hull Hugh, Are you saying that you could use an existing pump in cast iron to use a model to duplicate in bronze ? I remember meeting you in Vancouver but I didn't detect a New Zealand accent, are you not originally from there? On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com> wrote: Any chance of getting one at a decent price. I could make some in Bronze or ali if there are any people interested. Hugh This Hypro pump is cast iron, talked to the manufacturer and they would not recommend it for salt water. Would be the perfect pump except for that. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:00 PM, ojaivalleybeefarm @dslextreme.com <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com> wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com> wrote: Cant find the radial, Vance. Can you give me a steer. Thks, Hugh Just the pump. That's a crankshaft driven in-line pump. They also make a cam driven radial style. Four opposed pistons in an X configuration that takes up less space and is lighter. You mean like one of these? On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Vance Bradley <Vbra676539@aol.com> wrote: Look at car wash pumps. They are usually positive displacement piston pumps designed for hard use. Available from about 25 psi on up to 1000 without going into specialty units. Brian, If you can find something off the shelf then I would love to know. Saltwater, pump, 250 psi, 10 gpm. Not easy to find but I am in NZ.
USA should be much easier to find something. Does anyone else have any experience with this??? Hugh Ok, I agree, it just seemed like you had to do a lot of modification to your pumps. Is there nothing off the shelf that would do the job? Do you have some good sources for those pumps? On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com> wrote: Vance would know more about how common it is but fighting for space inside is a common thing. Moving the water with air pressure is fine but what do you do with the exhaust air as to get rid of it would mean fighting against outside water pressure or compressing it inside the transferee tank. I believe it is better to have access outside as then you can compensate for different weight of passengers and also compression of the vessels, difference in temperatures, fresh to salt water options etc. Easier to use a manual bilge pump to transfer if you are having it inside and then air into one tank equals air out. I am following the Comsub HBT system with the motorized pump and 2 tanks with a relief valve on each tank so if the pump fails I can blow with air to remove the water against the relief. My penny’s worth. Hugh I'm thinking of having my hard ballast located inside my pressure hull and controlling it's contents with air pressure. So I guess it will have to be rated equal to my pressure hull. One reason for doing this is simply for logistics as far as how my sub is laid out and how I have to locate things. I could change this in the future to have the hard ballast outside if I can find a good place for it.. I was toying around with the idea of having fore and aft trim tanks using hydraulic fluid as the medium for transferring weight fore and aft. That way I wouldn't have to worry about corrosion in the pump, even though the oil would not have the weight of water. Is locating a hard ballast inside the pressure hull a common thing to do? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6925 (20120229) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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