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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SeaBlaze3 LED bench test



Jim, the manufacture does not publish the luminosity of the LED.  Their reasons are given at their web site as:
 
"q. Why doesn’t Lumitec have any published Lumen information?
a. Our research indicates that lumen data as published by many lighting suppliers is grossly inaccurate, or at best misleading. To accurately ascertain this information one needs to conduct careful testing using sophisticated equipment. In lieu of this, many companies generate lumen ‘approximations’ by simply adding the lumen output published by emitter manufacturers. Unfortunately, this data usually yields approximations which are significantly overstated. The reason is that the initial emitter output data is generated in a laboratory, with a junction temp of 25C, at a pulse of about 20 mS. This emitter lumen output information is really only useful for comparing one emitter to another. Moreover, this ‘hypothetical’ lumen data is typically not derated for reduction of luminous efficiency due to heat, optics, windows, elevated drive currents, etc.
Naturally, it is not our policy to knowingly publish incorrect information. Therefore, we prefer to compare our lights to alternate light sources. For example, our SeaBlaze3 underwater light is brighter than most lights in its class, and usually outperforms lights priced 2 to 3 times more. Our Caprera and Capri lights are excellent replacements for the typical 55W halogen flood lights. These comparisons can be seen in our side-by-side photographic comparisons in the “products” section of our web site.
(or click here for photos of our lights in use) "
 All I know is they are bright compared to Deepsea Power and Light halogen Mini SeaLite (MSL-1070-B-120/250) http://www.deepsea.com/pdf/specs/18_Mini-SeaLite.pdf I have on my R300.  These are rated at 4750 lumens each. 

Cliff   
From: "JimToddPsub@aol.com" <JimToddPsub@aol.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SeaBlaze3 LED bench test

Cliff,
 
For comparison's sake, do you know the lumen rating on the SeaBlaze3?
 
Thanks,
Jim T
 
In a message dated 1/16/2012 9:44:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, cliffordredus@sbcglobal.net writes:
Hugh, correction, the link I sent was for the green LED.  The one I got was white.
   
From: Cliff Redus <cliffordredus@sbcglobal.net>
To: "personal_submersibles@psubs.org" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SeaBlaze3 LED bench test

Hugh, good to hear from you.  Hope you have made progress on your boat since my visit.  I ordered the light from Amazon.com
 
http://www.amazon.com/Lumitec-SeaBlaze-Underwater-Light-Green/dp/B002UO4XYI/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1326767665&sr=8-6
Cliff


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From: Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SeaBlaze3 LED bench test

Hi Cliff,  That is a  great light and I would like ot get hold of one and make a housing.  Did you just buy from the website or did you find another source?  Best regards,
Hugh
 
 
 
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of ojaivalleybeefarm @dslextreme.com
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 2:48 p.m.
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SeaBlaze3 LED bench test
 
Hi Cliff,    Maybe you could fill it with mineral oil.   Fast turn around on your video !
 
Brian
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Cliff Redus <cliffordredus@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Psub postings have been a bit slow so I have decided to post a short test I did today on an off the shelf LED light.  Subsea lights are very expensive for psub applications so I was looking to see what kind of depth performance I could get with an off-the-shelf LED marine light for pleasure boats.  I chose to test the Lumitec SeaBlaze3.  See the YouTube clip of the test at    http://youtu.be/WXYPjIgoxLE .  Prior to the test, I took it to swimming pool to see how it worked at night. The light worked great and very bright.  You could see across a an Olympic sized swimming pool without any problem with just one of these lights.  The application I am contemplating would use seven of these lights working off 24 VDC.  The lights will work on 10-30 VDC.  For 24 VDC, they pull 1.1 amps.   To conduct the test, I built a pressure chamber out of 4 inch, schedule 40 galvanized pipe fittings. I then made up a simple electrical penetrator using a ¾ inch pipe fitting, nails and some two-part epoxy.  To pressurize the test chamber, I used my pressure washer with a bypass valve.  To determine when the unit failed, I connected the light through the DC current section of my multimeter.  Because the line pressure for my house during the test was 74 psig, this is the minimum pressure point for the test. 
Results were that the LED light worked fine for about 4 minutes at 74 psig or 167 fsw.  At that point, the case flooded.  The application I am looking at has a 500 fsw design depth with a max test depth of 625 fsw.  Therefore out of the box these would not work but it would be straight forward to  pull the electronics and LEDS and  insert them in a custom 1-atm shell.  This lights was $220. 
 The reason I thought this had a chance of handling the pressure was because the case is anodized aluminum and the lens is glass. The LED face plate was in contact with the lens so structurally it was being supported.  My guess is that they must have used some kind of adhesive to seal the lens rather than an o-ring.  My next step is to tear the fixture apart and see if the electronics and LED could be repackaged for pressure.
 
Cliff
 
 
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