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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] electromagnetic drop weight mechanism
You mean this switch board ?
http://www.prismnet.com/~moki/20020823.141624/P4120062.jpg
Or that:
http://www.prismnet.com/~moki/20020823.141624/P4120068.jpg
Here is clear visible that her interior is complete different from the interior they use in the movie:
http://www.prismnet.com/~moki/20020823.141624/P4120075.jpg
vbr Carsten
<vbra676539@aol.com> schrieb:
> This thing was never going five miles unless maybe horizontally on a rail car or cargo ship. Or down if you didn't want her back. I don't know about her life in California. First we heard was when it got to Florida, purchased by a Coral Gables dentist. He's the one who put the long, wraparound viewport in the thing and de-rated it from 600 to 300 feet. I heard from some people who worked on the Ivan Tors film (Around the World Under the Sea) that she was dangerous, and they refused to dive it past 100 feet for fear the whole thing would collapse around them. The after wall in the control room would bow so much under pressure that it actually shorted some breakers by compression and blew the whole breaker box off the bulkhead in a shower of sparks and arcs, all while submerged, no less!!!! That must have been an interesting dive. The sub is double walled with frames between the inner and outer hulls, and no way to access them properly for inspections and paint--Carsten had a look at it in Ft. Lauderdale a few years back and said she was a rusted hulk. Currently serving as a playground doo-dad, painted pink and sky blue. You can still see driving down I-95 toward Miami.
> Vance
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve McQueen <psub101@indy.rr.com>
> To: personal_submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 3:09 pm
> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] electromagnetic drop weight mechanism
>
>
> I believe this sub is the "Cetacean" built by a Los Angeles inventor named
> Charles Martine. 50tons, 41 feet. An newspaper clipping/photo I have from
> 1955 says he wanted to go 5 miles down with it. I never was able to find
> out what she was really able to do. I was under the impression she was
> "homebuilt". A nice project in my opinion.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of
> MerlinSub@t-online.de
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:19 PM
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] electromagnetic drop weight mechanism
>
> I found a better clip:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5p189pKmOY
>
> At 0:31 you can see another use of explosive bolts.
> And from 0:38 - 1:27 explain why it is so difficult with girls on submarine
> crews..
>
> vbr Carsten
> (Finished together with Emile this weekend the new sail for Kreidessub - the
> ower destroy the first one on his carport..
> Boat will be displayed on the "BOOT" the biggest watersport boatshow in the
> world at Düsseldorf, Germany 21 jan -29 Jan.2012)
>
>
>
>
> "James Frankland" <jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb:
> > I just bought this film on amazon....it better be good Carsten!
> >
> > On 15 January 2012 21:31, <MerlinSub@t-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Alan, you must see the the Holywood Movie "Underwater around the
> world"
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Around_the_World_Under_the_Sea
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yGkXCe1H2U
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MW7WJoVydw
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044GjRUH0Uk
> > >
> > > In the last 5 minutes of this great movie you can see the usefull use of
> > > dynamit INSIDE a civil submarine..
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/Around-World-Under-Sea-VHS/dp/6301964292
> > >
> > > This Movie give me some inspiration to build the Euronaut.
> > > And I manage my way into the movie submarine many years ago..
> > > No idear were it is gone now.
> > >
> > > Vance has some background also..
> > >
> > > vbr Carsten
> > >
> > >
> > > "Alan James" <alanjames@xtra.co.nz> schrieb:
> > > > Thanks Vance & Phil,
> > > > Good to have living sub encyclopedias in the group.
> > > > Carsten, am not sure what dynamite bolts are but it sounds like that
> if
> > > > you bought the big ones you might be sinking rather than floating.
> > > > Alan
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Phil Nuytten
> > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:15 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] electromagnetic drop weight mechanism
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All:
> > > > I agree completely with Vance on the electromag weight drop
> question.
> > > The rotation cam-over-center or latch-pivot operated by a
> > > > thru' hull shaft has certainly stood the test of time. There are a
> > > number of variations including a layered weight plates system
> > > > with alternating keyed slots so you can drop just enough to make you
> > > buoyant and so on - but I believe the KISS principal very much
> > > > applies here.
> > > > Phil
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: vbra676539@aol.com
> > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:03 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] electromagnetic drop weight mechanism
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are substantially more cons than pros here. Many of the deep
> > > vehicles and early attempts used this, including the old Deep
> > > > Jeep, Alvin, and the Trieste. Read up on any of them and you will find
> > > instances where an unexplained short dumped everything and
> > > > sent them to the surface. Expensive and wasteful is what it is.
> > > Especially Trieste, which had its BATTERIES held on sloping rails
> > > > (they were deck mounted, originally) and lost them ALL due to a very
> > > minor short circuit in the cabin. Lost them all at 15,000 feet,
> > > > that is. My friend Mike Stahle was the chief pilot and then crew
> > > commander for that thing, and they hated those electromagnets.
> > > > Hated them! Necessary for them, of course, but for us, a penetrator is
> > > just too dead easy to install--and bullet proof. Turn handle,
> > > > drop weights. Don't turn handle, take weights home. Simple.
> > > > Vance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz>
> > > > To: personal_submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > > > Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:46 pm
> > > > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] electromagnetic drop weight mechanism
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Haven't designed my drop weight mechanism yet, but are toying with
> > > the
> > > > idea of using electromagnets.
> > > > Was looking at some gate holding magnets that had a holding force
> of
> > > 1200 lb &
> > > > a draw of only 500mA off 12V. They were a tad expensive so will
> look
> > > for an alternative.
> > > > The positives I see are that the system would be easy to put
> > > together, (possibly with multiple
> > > > magnets for making the weights more manageable), & you could drop
> > > your
> > > > weights very quickly. The negatives are you would not want to
> turn
> > > the power off before
> > > > you were on land & you would need a system of locking the weights
> in
> > > place for transport
> > > > or alternatively remove them.
> > > > Is this system used elsewhere, any thoughts??
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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