[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hull Calcs




Brian,

Hull openings and reinforcement is currently up for discussion on the members list. I've sent out an RFC and also sent a pointer to some calculators for review before making them public. Check your mail from "member-forum" to review that discussion.

In terms of diameter of the opening you have to first know what is considered a "large" opening. ABS and ASME both say that for a hull up to 60 inch diameter a large opening is anything greater than 1/2 the shell diameter but not over 20 inches, and for hulls greater than 60 inch diameter a large opening is anything greater than 1/3 the diameter but not over 40 inches. By these standards, both the K250 and K350 subs have large openings. There is no specific size limit for large openings however additional calculations may be required for vessels exceeding 60 in diameter or openings exceeding 40 in diameter. ABS requires that such designs be submitted for specific approval, whereas ASME provides additional information in BPVC Section 8, Mandatory Appendices 1-7.

The above paragraph can be reduced to the following; IF the opening is a large opening as defined in the standard, AND the hull is less than 60 in diameter, AND the opening is less than 40 inch diameter; the requirement is that ALL reinforcement be integral to the CT or the hull. Interestingly, integral reinforcement is a requirement anyway for externally pressurized vessels since no reinforcement pads are allowed on externally pressurized vessels.

ABS 4-4-1A1/7.1.1
ASME BPVC Section 8, UG-36(b)(1) and UG-36(b)(2).
ASME BPVC Mandatory Appendices 1-7.

Jon



On 10/10/2010 2:22 AM, Brian Cox wrote:
Hey Jon,
            Are there any guidlines addressing the steel thickness where the
conning tower intersects the main hull section.  My hull is approx 30" in
diameter and I'm planning on intersecting it with a 26" section using 3/4"
thick steel( A516 70g).  That 26" is very close to the 30" diameter of the
hull itself.  I'm so close to the 30" diameter I'm wondering if I could go
all the way to the maximum diameter of 30".  Any help on this?

Thanks,  Brian




************************************************************************
************************************************************************
************************************************************************
The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal
CAN-SPAM Act of 2003.  Your email address appears in our database
because either you, or someone you know, requested you receive messages
from our organization.

If you want to be removed from this mailing list simply click on the
link below or send a blank email message to:
	removeme-personal_submersibles@psubs.org

Removal of your email address from this mailing list occurs by an
automated process and should be complete within five minutes of
our server receiving your request.

PSUBS.ORG
PO Box 53
Weare, NH  03281
603-529-1100
************************************************************************
************************************************************************
************************************************************************





************************************************************************
************************************************************************
************************************************************************
The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal
CAN-SPAM Act of 2003.  Your email address appears in our database
because either you, or someone you know, requested you receive messages
from our organization.

If you want to be removed from this mailing list simply click on the
link below or send a blank email message to:
	removeme-personal_submersibles@psubs.org

Removal of your email address from this mailing list occurs by an
automated process and should be complete within five minutes of
our server receiving your request.

PSUBS.ORG
PO Box 53
Weare, NH  03281
603-529-1100
************************************************************************
************************************************************************
************************************************************************