Hi Vance and congratulation on your recent addition, yes we are
diving and I have already came up with a huge list of thing that I want to
change, mainly make it a smaller footprint take the pressure vessel battery
pods and make it similar to Pete Hoffman’s boat we have all the pieces now so
it’s a lot easier to do, and if I can get a few platinum bars on the deck it
will be allot easier to sell everyone else on it
Brian V. Ryder
President
Sub Atlantic Research & Recovery Associates Inc.
brian@subatlantic.com
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From:
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]
On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:29 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken treasure
It sounds like you're diving. That's good work on what was a pile
of pieces not very many months ago. Congratulations.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian V. Ryder <brian@subatlantic.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 3:24 pm
Subject: RE: AW: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken treasure
The laws pertaining to ship wrecks of historical value is the
reason we have made the shift to what we refer to as bullion wreck, or wrecks
that have no historical value, right now we have some 10 plus shipwrecks
identified and ready for the picking dating back to 1400 of the island of
Hispaniola but it is cost prohibited due to regulation and corrupt government
officials. So we are now doing WW2 merchant ships that have valuable cargo much
less laws and all are far enough of shore to keep the scobedo divers from them,
we always try to pick ships that have no loss of life so as to protect the
grave issues, but you also have to look at whether they had bunker fuel onboard
or coal fired the last thing you want is to cause a oil spill, we were out to
our site yesterday and I have never seen as many sharks as we did glad they
don’t like 516 gr 70 and acrylic still an eye opening experience
Sub Atlantic Research & Recovery Associates Inc.
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One man's junk is another man's treasure... One see's a golden
spanish coin, another a sizable piece of gold.
David Bartsch
> Subject: Re: AW: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken treasure
> From: MerlinSub@t-online.de
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:41:00 +0000
>
> The big question is what is a underwater heritage?
>
> A Liberty Ship sunk 1944 full of copper?
>
> For some archelogist this has to stay as wreck untouch for the next
generations.
>
> For some seamens and salvors this is not more than a underwater
> scrapping place ready to salvage with explosives, a barge and a crane..
>
> Here in our lake a VW rabbit sunken 1970 into the ice of a lake by stupid
boys
> is protect by some laws..
>
> vbr Carsten
>
>
> "Juergen Guerrero Kommritz" <groplias2@yahoo.com>
schrieb:
> > Hello Brian
> there is an international convention that protects the underwater heritage
> (sunken treasures): the paper is on the link:
> http://www.unesco.org/culture/underwater/infokit_en/
>
> It is not so easy if you have a spanish wreck Spain claims it so there
will be a
> battle for the possible treasure, most treasures are of the archeological
type
> only costly to recover and no worth on the market but of big value for
mankind.
> Best wishes
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Brian Cox <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com>
> An: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 17. August 2010, 18:41:37 Uhr
> Betreff: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken treasure
>
>
> Wow ! Thanks for the great answers guys !
>
> I can see it can get to be a sticky situation. Best not to talk too much.
>
> Carsten, once I get my sub going I need to talk to you !!!
>
> Brian
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On
Behalf Of ShellyDalg@aol.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:03 PM
> >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken treasure
> >
> >
> >Hi Brian. There have been several laws passed in recent years in the
US about
> >this subject. None of them good for a "treasure hunter" but
good for
> >historians.
> >Talk to the guys at Delta Oceanographics. They were working in
conjunction
> >with a salvage outfit up near Crescent City, Calif. to find the
Jonathan B. (
> >look it up )
> >5 Million in gold was recovered and the State of California claimed
> >ownership. After a long and costly court battle, they finally received
some
> >compensation.
> >Basically, if you find it, you can't touch anything, including a
ship's bell.
> >
> >You can video/document the dives etc. but don't take anything.
> >Naturally you want to keep it a secret, but you'll have to contact the
> >authorities and work out a deal before anything is touched. You'll end
up in
> >jail if you don't follow the rules.
> >I have a friend who grew up on his grandfather's farm along the coast.
When
> >times got real tough his granpa would "miraculously" come up
with a few gold
> >coins to hawk and save the farm.
> >He's pretty sure he knows where the old man went looking for them.
> >The farm has been out of his family for many years now, but he still
dreams
> >of going back and searching for the gold.
> >If you find a random coin or two then it's yours to keep as no owner
can be
> >identified.
> >If you find a wreck......the trouble begins!
> >Be careful.
> >Frank D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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