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Brian
I agree with you,but most Salvors I know will on
discovering a wreck remove as much of the quick money items in the initial dives
to cover overheads and lenghty court proceedings wich usually follow,before
declaring the wreck and trying to obtain salvage rights.
I believe that any artefact that the government wants it
should pay the salvor good money for ,it should allso supply a historian at the
governments expense and any other additional equipment and personel for the
monitoring and documenting purposes ,but must not unreasonably obstruct the
salvos from performing his task , diving days are usually limited.I think
this would encourage Salvor's to work with governments.Wouldn't it be nice
if the company that is performing the salvage gives a percentage of the profits
or artefacts to the family or families of those who's lives where
lost on that perticular wreck , should they allso not be given
more authority in the salvage decissions I wonder.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:30
AM
Subject: RE: AW: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken
treasure
Certainly
something like the "Grotte Cosquer" should be protected against
vandels.
But various
wrecks that are not nessesarily of historic value should be open to
salvage. It would help propel more development in submarines by giving
an extra monetary boost to those involved in subs. That would in turn
help propel other ventures. We should lobby Congress
!!
Brian
One man's junk is another man's
treasure... One see's a golden spanish coin, another a sizable piece of
gold.
David Bartsch
> Subject: Re: AW: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken
treasure
> From: MerlinSub@t-online.de
> To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:41:00
+0000
>
> The big question is what is a underwater
heritage?
>
> A Liberty Ship sunk 1944 full of copper?
>
> For some archelogist this has to stay as wreck untouch for the next
generations.
>
> For some seamens and salvors this is not more
than a underwater
> scrapping place ready to salvage with explosives,
a barge and a crane..
>
> Here in our lake a VW rabbit sunken
1970 into the ice of a lake by stupid boys
> is protect by some
laws..
>
> vbr Carsten
>
>
> "Juergen
Guerrero Kommritz" <groplias2@yahoo.com> schrieb:
> > Hello
Brian
> there is an international convention that protects the
underwater heritage
> (sunken treasures): the paper is on the
link:
> http://www.unesco.org/culture/underwater/infokit_en/
>
> It is not so easy if you have a spanish wreck Spain claims it so
there will be a
> battle for the possible treasure, most treasures
are of the archeological type
> only costly to recover and no worth
on the market but of big value for mankind.
> Best wishes
>
Juergen
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
> Von: Brian Cox
<ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com>
> An:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 17. August
2010, 18:41:37 Uhr
> Betreff: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken
treasure
>
>
> Wow ! Thanks for the great answers guys
!
>
> I can see it can get to be a sticky situation. Best not
to talk too much.
>
> Carsten, once I get my sub going I need
to talk to you !!!
>
> Brian
> -----Original
Message-----
> >From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of
ShellyDalg@aol.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:03
PM
> >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >Subject: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] sunken treasure
> >
> >
> >Hi
Brian. There have been several laws passed in recent years in the US about
> >this subject. None of them good for a "treasure hunter" but
good for
> >historians.
> >Talk to the guys at Delta
Oceanographics. They were working in conjunction
> >with a salvage
outfit up near Crescent City, Calif. to find the Jonathan B. (
>
>look it up )
> >5 Million in gold was recovered and the State
of California claimed
> >ownership. After a long and costly court
battle, they finally received some
> >compensation.
>
>Basically, if you find it, you can't touch anything, including a ship's
bell.
> >
> >You can video/document the dives etc. but
don't take anything.
> >Naturally you want to keep it a secret, but
you'll have to contact the
> >authorities and work out a deal
before anything is touched. You'll end up in
> >jail if you don't
follow the rules.
> >I have a friend who grew up on his
grandfather's farm along the coast. When
> >times got real tough
his granpa would "miraculously" come up with a few gold
> >coins
to hawk and save the farm.
> >He's pretty sure he knows where the
old man went looking for them.
> >The farm has been out of his
family for many years now, but he still dreams
> >of going back
and searching for the gold.
> >If you find a random coin or two
then it's yours to keep as no owner can be
> >identified.
>
>If you find a wreck......the trouble begins!
> >Be
careful.
> >Frank D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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