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 Vance, 
On a serious note, I agree with you regarding 
Hugh. 
He's doing this submarine thing a couple of levels 
above me. 
I'm just building for recreational purposes & 
in my spare time. 
Hughs putting a lot on the line with his commercial 
build. 
Nailing down all the facts & building to ABS 
specifications 
with an original design must be incredibly 
difficult & frustrating. 
Hugh (who lives across town) is very safety 
conscious & lets 
me know if I'm out of line. 
Regards Alan 
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  Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:50 
AM 
  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K250 to K400 
  modification 
  
  So....what? Hugh isn't smart or brave? Hm. I had quite a different 
  impression of him. 
  
  
  -----Original 
  Message----- From: Alan James < alanjames@xtra.co.nz> To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.orgSent: 
  Sun, Jul 4, 2010 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K250 to K400 
  modification
   
  
  Hi Hugh, 
  It's dangerous if it's not thought through 
  properly & 
  the dangers are not accounted for. 
  Alan 
    
    
  
    ----- Original Message -----  
    
    
    Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 7:17 
    AM 
    Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K250 to 
    K400 modification 
    
  
    
    Alan, 
    Fair enough you did put in an emergency but I would put more faith in tech 
    divers as they are familiar with the complex tables mixing of gas etc.  
    150 ft extra  you would probably be narc’d.  It is possible but so 
    is flying in a chair tied to a bunch of helium balloons.  Dangerous 
    stuff.  Hugh 
      
      
    
      
    
    
    If you look at it 
    carefully you'd see that you'd only   
    
    need the 
    decompression times for a 150ft dive.  
    
    
      
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      Message -----   
      
      
      
      Sent: Sunday, July 
      04, 2010 11:23 AM  
      
      Subject: RE: 
      [PSUBS-MAILIST] K250 to K400 modification  
      
      Alan, 
      That 
      would have to be the silliest idea you have come up with.  Heard of 
      bends, decompression? 
        
        
      
        
      
      I am thinking 
      that it would be possible to turn a K250 or any 
sub  
      
      into a 
      semi-ambient for an emergency situation where you 
needed  
      
      
      Example --- Go 
      down to your 250 ft limit & turn on an ambient 
      system  
      
      at that 
      point, this pressurizes the cabin as you progressively 
      descend.  
      
      Theoretically 
      you could go another 150ft, down to 400ft.  
      
      I guess you'd 
      need a lot of tanks for a K250. Maybe more practical 
for  
      
      Cliffs sub wich 
      is a bit smaller. You would need a dive computer for  
      
      decompression 
      calculations, an over pressure valve, a modification of  
      
      the life 
      support system wich could be as little as increasing the 
      O2  
      
      flow into the 
      cabin. Also the instrumentation would need to take 
      75psi.  
      
      The ambient 
      equalization system could be set up by having a outside 
  
      
      pressure 
      reading & an electronic system that fed air into the hull when 
        
      
      the outside 
      pressure was more than 125psi above the inside.  
      
      
      
      
      
      
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