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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the leak
Rather than explosive, maybe something could be done
with an insert constructed using a material with a
Negative Poisson's ratio. I.E. something that gets
"fatter" when stretched rather than thinner. Possibly
with some sort of construction so the well pressure
keeps the material/plug expanded.
Cheers,
Ian.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Cox
Sent: Jun 1, 2010 4:10 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the leak
Using
explosives is the last thing you would want to do.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of greg
cottrell
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:46 AM
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the
leak
I would suggest that future wells be required to have a
failsafe in the form of a length of pipe inserted into the well
shaft. This section would be double-walled and filled with high grade
explosive. Say- 2000 ft deep in a well that is to be drilled as deep as
18,000 ft like this like the Deepwater Horizon. This could be detonated
in an emergency.
In addition, a few tankers coulb be fitted with conveyor style
skimmers to throw floating sludge/oil into the hold,(and pumping
out water that settles in the keel). The cost would be small compared to
the amount of money lost on one big spill.
Greg
--- On Wed, 5/26/10, ShellyDalg@aol.com
<ShellyDalg@aol.com> wrote:
From:
ShellyDalg@aol.com <ShellyDalg@aol.com>
Subject: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] the leak
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010,
12:19 PM
Submersible operations at that depth are very difficult for sure.
There are some pretty amazing ROV's in the undersea industry and I
have to assume the guys working there are pretty smart.
I wonder if the basic premise is off base though. My guess is
that the "suits" are calling the shots.
Two thoughts I've had from the first few days since the leak was
discovered.......
First off.....the dispersants being used seems like a bad idea to
me. Wouldn't it be better to inject some type of "solidifying"
chemical into the oil stream so the oil would clump up and sink,
staying near the leak and at the bottom. It would create a HUGE pile
of tar at the seabed but at least it wouldn't be spreading out all
through the water column and across the entire gulf region.
Sure, it would be a big mess still, but it would be in a
relatively small area and after the leak was fixed the big pile of
shit could be cleaned up by ROV's and barges.
The other idea, although not a fix, would be to attach a larger
pipe around the well pipe and channel all that oil and gas to the
surface without it spreading all over the place. If a big barge was
positioned at the pipe where it reached the surface, the oil and gas
could be channeled into an open containment chamber where
the natural gas would evaporate and the oil would be in a big
"bath tub" where pumps could transfer it into tankers. The ultimate
fix of drilling a relief well and plugging the well pipe could proceed
and by August the well would be sealed permanently but the oil
wouldn't have messed up the water and ultimately the
shore.
I know it was an "accident" but the flailing around with
different "fixes" has created a mess that will take decades to clean
up, if it's possible at all to really get it all clean. ( which I
doubt )
The damage to the environment and the industry, from fishermen to
waitresses and all the people who live there is too immense to
comprehend. I just don't think BP has enough money to really "make
them whole".
Let me just add that I've always thought that oil on a federal
lease was the property of the American people and for any company, be
it American or foreign, to make profits beyond a reasonable amount is
just plain wrong. Same thing with mining, forestry, hydro electric, or
any other "natural resource" obtained from government owned lands.
That stuff is the property of the citizens and should be developed
with a set amount of profit margin but not ruled by corporate greed
setting the "market".
Sorry, better get off my podium now......
Frank
D.
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