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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hull Penetration and Reinforcement



Alan,

The original hull was designed to spec by a WW II Navy submarine designer that George Kittredge went to Annapolis with. When it came time for ABS to look at it, they couldn't find much in the way of issues.

Vance



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hull Penetration and Reinforcement

Hi,
I'm wondering wether the K250 / 350 plans meet ABS specifications as far as hull
construction is concerned. I have a diagram of the K250 dome / hatch construction, wich I'm
looking at using as a guidline. Sorry to hear about the calculation stuff up Frank. I think thats pretty
much parr for the course when attempting something new, especially when you're thinking outside
the box like you are, things never seems to go smoothly.
Regards Alan
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hull Penetration and Reinforcement

Jon, Jim, Hugh.......
I went through the same problem a while back after Cliff pointed out that my hull penetrations weren't up to par. I had been using the "cubic inches" idea rather than the "square inches" as Hugh mentioned.
The solution I have developed with help from Hugh ( thanks again, Hugh ) is to remove the entire window frame  for the largest 24" main window ring and replace it with a much thicker ring.
The calculations we worked out came up as needing about a 1-1/2 inch thick ring ( by 6 inches long ) for the larger window with a 2 inch thick plexi-base ring inside the thicker window frame.
The smaller 12 inch windows need the same thing but the "fix" will include replacing the current assembly with larger windows ( 16 inch viewing area ) and again much thicker window rings. 
This is a big change so will be done sometime next year. In the meantime my maximum depth will be limited to about 50 feet until the proper design has been run through a comprehensive FEA to determine the exact dimensions. I too was confused by the documents as it relates to how much material to replace what was cut out for the penetrations.
This is still a bit of guess work because the documents are really talking about penetrations in the tube section rather than the end caps, so an FEA that relates specifically to eliptical head penetrations will be required.
Basically.......I'm not WHACKING a new hole in there until all the facts are in !
Frank D.