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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] revelation



Hi David, thanks for the monitor link.
Was looking at a similar Chinese one recently. Have bought a video recorder that doesn't go, to
see if I can use the lense & screen from it.
Had a thought that with your communications device, maybe for boat to sub communication you
could have a unit from the boat suspended on electrical cable 100 ft below. All the noise like waves
breaking, outboards etc happens near the surface, so you may be able to eliminate a lot of this, this way.
Also along this vein you might find that boat to boat communication could be good
at depth; especially if the motors were turned off.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan James
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] revelation

David,
Just looking at this underwater communications system. This might give you an idea
of what you can expect with regard to performance variation depending on conditions.
The divers unit goes for $668-, not sure what the boat based unit costs.
They give a range of between 50 to 500 meters depending on noise levels & sea conditions.
I looked at a couple of text message based underwater communication systems, but they
were "up to 500 meters".
Alan 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:15 AM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] revelation

Jim,
 
   That's not a problem at all. In fact, I need to produce a transducer/hydrophone pair for kyle's surface boat and an additional pair for Alec's for use at this coming convention. I will gather...ok, you have me curious, did you have an idea this would work as an underwater comms unit already?
   In the next few days or weeks, I'll get an idea as to how many will be needed and mass produce them in an assembly like fashion. Ordering the two part molding plastic in larger quantities will save costs too.
   Will your hailer be used as a dipping system for surface boat deployment or for aboard your sub? i ask this to figure interface cable length.
   Anyway, no this is not a problem at all. We will discuss this further in the next few days.
 
                                                                                                                                                 David Bartsch 

Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:37:33 -0600
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] revelation
From: kocpnt@tds.net
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org

Hi David,
 
I just purchased a GS3000s hailer/VHF Radio on ebay. I hope you can help me put the rest of the system toghther when it arrives!
 
Best Regards,
 
Jim K

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:39 AM, David Bartsch <dbartsch2236@hotmail.com> wrote:
To all:
 
  Ever heard of a marine hailer?
 
  These things are designed to allow bullhorn type communications from one's dry wheelhouse during rainy and windy weather to other nearby boats.
 
  Take the airborne bullhorn away and replace this with an underwater voice transmitter and also replace the returning pickup microphone with an HBH-2 hydrophone and you have a ready made underwater broadband communications unit!
 
  To make this even more appealing, some newer units are about he size of a new cb console and even contain VHF radios to boot!
 
  Go to ebay and just look at the Standard Horizon Matrix GX3000s Marine hailer and VHF radio. This is for a new unit and its $188.00 and this includes shipping!
 
  Too pricy?... boat yards frequently sell off new but old stock items to make room for incoming merchandise.
 
  Take the Cybernet CTX 100 Marine hailer and intercom also showed on ebay. This old but never sold hailer is going for $49.99 with a $12.00 shipping fee. This is its second such listing.
 
  These hailers run circles around anything I have thus far produced and some have extra desired features to boot...seems I am soon to be out of a job short the transmitters and hydrophones. I can live with this as It was my goal to inspire interest in passive sonar and underwater comms to the point that most subbers look into building or buying something. My goal I feel is soon to be met.
 
  If your not quite convinced, have a look at Alec's old stock but never sold Ray Jefferson in action at the coming convention. He has graciously allowed us to us it for the support vessel and this gives us a chance to run one thru its paces first hand.
 
  To anyone who buys any hailer, I will be here to aid in the construction of the voice transmitters and passive hydrophones or I can assist you in making them as these are not too difficult.
 
                                                                                        David Bartsch


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