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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: K-350 / AGM batteries



Hi Jim. If you're shopping for batteries......you must be gettin' close to launch !
That sounds really good. I can hardly wait to see your boat in the water, it's a beautiful sub.
On the batteries, I had a set of Trojans hooked up to a solar system on my ranch and they lasted 13 years with no problems. These were the 6 volt kind made for golf carts, in series for 24 volts. 
Now I understand that  application is different as the discharge was never allowed to get very low, but except for adding a bit of water every few months, they were basically trouble free for all those years.  
This was many years ago but at $80 each, it was not costly at all for the 8 batteries and it ran my whole house.
We had a forest fire that took out the ranch and the batteries melted some what so I could see the guts and the plates are definitely a lot thicker than the regular car batteries. I also had a "deep cycle marine battery"  that I used for remote lighting in the pump house. I'd charge it up at the house and just put it on a shelf with an auto type bulb in the pump house. It would last for weeks with intermittent use.
When it melted, the plates were much like the car batteries.
My point here is........Trojan makes a damn good 6 volt battery.
Most golf carts use Trojans. Ask around at the golf course. Now that may be due to marketing to some degree, but the overwhelming number of golf courses I've seen use Trojans.
I'm not sure the out gassing is that big a problem when we have a high maintenance application like a sub. My batteries ( 14 ) will be sealed inside stainless boxes, but will be inside the sub. Because of this I'm leaning toward the AGM's or GEL like Vance suggested. I guess I'll make that decision when the time comes.
On the lights.....Those deep water lights are a fortune !!!
Couldn't we take the headlight bulbs from a motorcycle and seal them up in a housing ?
The H4 bulbs I use on my old Harley are very bright, cheap to buy, and easy to get. Even in remote locales like Mexico or where ever.
A housing should be a breeze to make. The reflector needs to be more focused, and made of glass or metal because of the heat generated. (Plastic flashlight reflectors won't work.)  You've got a lathe so making a screw on thing with a window from some aluminum tube should be doable. A thick piece of glass can be had on the internet, so acrylic isn't required for the window.
I've got a hand held flashlight that claims 1 million candle power. It's REALLY bright and plugs into my car's cigarette lighter. It lights up a large area and has a fairly focused beam. Much more so than a regular auto head light.
I know I'm a cheap bastard but I just can't see payin' $1500 bucks for a light. It ain't that complex to make one.
Frank D.