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Hi, Al
I'll get my gal to post some on Psubs in the next
of days.
Phil
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 4:03
PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New and
needing early advice
I?d definitely be
interested in one Phil. BTW, where can I find a picture of the Sea
Urchin? I?ve searched your website and all over the internet ?
nada!
Al
Secor
Okay, put me down
for one. I hope the "pretty low cost" is pretty low
cost.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Phil Nuytten <phil@philnuytten.com>
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 12:27 pm
Subject:
Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New and needing early advice
Always nice to see a fellow Canuck interested in subs - psubs is the ideal
place to get good info on what to do - and, more importantly, what not to
do!
Re: learning to pressure weld - if you really cast an analytical eye over a
well made personal sub - you will usually find that the bare hull was the
least expensive part of the assembly. There are lots of pipe and head
suppliers in Calgary and Edmonton - if you price out the tube to head
weld and a flange weld at a pipe shop, I think you'll find your time better
spent doing whatever it is you do, rather than trying to do it
yourself!
At Nuytco, we've
thought quite a bit about putting out a kit for a sub in the style of
our old 'Sea Urchin' style sub - kind of an upgraded Kitteridge 350 -
would be pretty low cost if we can develop some decent quantities . . . maybe
time for a poll to see if there actually is any
interest.
If you need contact info for pipe/head suppliers in Canada - give me a call at
Nuytco.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January
03, 2010 9:12 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
New and needing early advice
I am a new
member to this discussion group and, being new to the whole subject of
personal submersibles, have a few questions for the rest of you to help me
decide if the whole idea of building my own submersible is a sensible choice
for me. I do NOT want to go further down the road of resource, financial and
emotional investment if its an unrealistic venture.
Il tell you a
bit about me, my intended submersible and also the area where I intend to
use it.
My name is Paul
Lassen and am 46. I live in Rosebud, Alberta, Canada (about as land locked
as you can get) near Calgary. I have a masters degree in Industrial Design
and currently work as an acoustician who assesses and designs solutions for
industrial noise. I have spent my life building virtually anything that
strikes my fancy. Including everything from violin family instruments, rally
cars, engines, boats, product models, homes, tools, stereo equipment
electronics, on and on. I have also been an instrumentation mechanic /
technician in the oil and gas sector.
I have good
confidence in my ability to build a submersible with one exception. Welding.
I have virtually no experience welding and I can only imagine the importance
of a high quality weld to the building of a safe PSUB. Can the necessary
welding skills be gained through adult education courses, some additional
reading and practice? I get the sense that at least some of you have done
just that. Am I right? If you know of good resources for welding education
then please pass their titles / URLs / whatever along. What kind of welding
is appropriate / necessary for our kind of welding (stick, MIG, TIG)? Is
there an exceptionally well suited model of welder that people know of? Are
there welder models to avoid?
My hope is to
build a K-350 with my own little modes. I intend to use it in Clayoquot
Sound on the west coast of Vancouver Island in British Columbia, Canada
where I now boat regularly. On the surface its a stunningly beautiful area
of intersecting fjords and inlets but below the water I just don't know
much. Neither does anyone I've spoken with. I have oceanfront recreational
property there which can act as a good base and the invertebrate speciation
there is really second to none. Depths are between 30 to 60 metres for
perhaps 50% of the various inlets of Clayoquot Sound while the remainder is
60 metres down to 170 metres. Visibility was poor the one time Ie bothered
to dive there (I far prefer more tropical destinations for SCUBA) and
surface observation of visibility seems to indicate that this is the norm.
Water is typically 11 C (52 F) without much seasonal
variation.
The idea of
building and operating a PSUB has really captured my imagination. I just
need to know what it will take to get to a skill level where I can make
welds that will result in a safe and reliable submersible. I also want to
know if cool mirky waters (at shallow diving depths) will allow any kind of
observational enjoyment or if Il be consistently disappointed in what I am
unable to see down there. Does visibility ever improve at depth?
Finally, explain to me the reasons that the K-350 has become such an
apparently popular PSUB?
I'll be
grateful for any responses.
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