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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] emergency lift bags



Jay I don't think I would attempt a low attachment, was even thinking on a relatively long
attach line say 10-15' on my lift hooks. The idea is, get to shallow water for surface crew to
be able to hook on and hoist it into my surface tender. A self rescue.
 
At a 350' rescue I would imagine a nasty tech dive and would probably still need to attache
a lift bag. I am thinking I am just eliminating the deep diver and needing to locate me.
 
Dean
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2009 5:01:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, bottomgun@mindspring.com writes:

Proper ballast tanks are the solution (~30% reserve buoyancy).

 

Some additional thoughts on lift bags:

1.       It usually takes two to maintain a level condition and cause your hatch to be exposed at the surface.

2.       Bags need to be attached very low on the sub, especially when looking at a PSUB the size of a K-350.

3.       Lift bags should be fully inflated at the bottom to maintain a controlled ascent, otherwise

a.       The ascent will be under constant acceleration (i.e. continually speeding up)

b.      When surfaced rapidly, the bags/sub may broach and the bubble is lost resulting in the sub sinking once again (and potentially injuring the survivors inside).

 

R/Jay

 

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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] emergency lift bags

 

To open the hatch at -1 ft seems a better solution = drop weight.

 

20 ft = 6 meter depth - hatch of 2ft diameter has a area of 0,283 m2 so at 20 ft the pressure on the hatch wil be stil 1,7 ts.

Means in even a full dry boat with just destroyd mbt you have to flood it and destroy all the interior by saltwater..

 

"If you have air a to blow an lift bag - means you have still air to blow the mbt"

 

Lift bag is a good thing to have - on shore in store at the car close to the diving spot.

 

vbr Carsten