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 Hi Frank,  I've seen a number of quite thick cross section 
O-rings used to seal hatches. Peter Madsen has done this on his hatches and for 
the large full OD pressure hull unbolt able flange that he built to be able to 
open up the engine compartment of Kraka. You also see this on Euronaut and AP6 
Alicia.  I suspect many of these thick O-rings are softer then the much 
thinner ones that are commonly used.  The size and softness, I think gives 
them more ability to seal a uneven and / or warped surface.  I don't think 
Peter needed to machine any of his hatches, or hatch lands, if I'm reading his 
emails to me correctly.   
Peter didn't even need to cut a O-ring groove. He just rolled some 
square stock steel rings and welded them onto the hatch to form a O-ring groove 
between them.  Pretty simple solution really. 
Brent 
From: ShellyDalg@aol.com  
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cast dome cost Hi Dean. Good point. Even though we work very hard to get out hatch flanges 
flat and smooth, there's always going to be some slight difference between the 
two flanges. A "O" ring will still seal it up once the pressure is applied. 
 
For Glen....the hatch dogs are mainly to hold the hatch down and sealed 
when you are near the surface. Once you submerge, the pressure on the hatch 
compresses the "O" ring. The pressure near the surface isn't always enough to 
prevent leaks, so the hatch dogs pull the hatch down until you reach ten to 
fifteen feet, then the hatch seals itself. It's tempting to tighten the hatch 
dogs  because they will become loose at depth once the pressure builds up 
but don't. When you come back up, the dogs will be too tight and either you use 
a hammer to get them loose or you go back down to loosen them. 
Let's say you have a 24 inch hatch....At 100 feet deep that's about 3 
atmospheres. Multiply the square inches of your hatch by the difference between 
inside and outside pressure and it's a BIG number ! That's how much pressure is 
being applied to the hatch. 
That little "O" ring is being flattened inside it's groove, and being 
forced into the tiny gap between the two steel flanges. It won't leak. I've seen 
hatch flanges with several layers of paint on them and they are a long way from 
perfectly flat with the paint layers and scratches etc. It still seals 
good. 
Most guys are using 1/4 or 3/8 "O" rings with a #70 hardness.  
Remember to get the groove machined with a slight taper on the inside wall 
and size the "O" ring to fit snug. That way it stays put when you open the 
hatch. 
Frank D. 
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