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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Tympanic membranes




I was headed down that path as well. The best defense is a good offense, or follow ABS/PVHO rules and build it right and you won't have much to worry about. If you design, build, and rate the sub correctly, and only dive in water no deeper than the sub rating you should never have a reason to bail from the sub. The Seaker100 accident (read the web site) is factual evidence that the likelihood of surviving a catastrophic failure is slim to none. That vessel failed in 30 feet of water resulting in one dead and one critical who survived, but by his own admission had no time to "react" and has no idea how he reached the surface.

However, building true to ABS/PVHO specs won't guarantee you don't get yourself into an entanglement situation. This seems to be a valid reason to discuss escaping a sub and having some kind of plan for it. The video clip of Alec hitting that underwater cable with snoopy is a perfect example that there are underwater obstacles out there that can ruin your day, even though it didn't ruin his. Had that cable gotten caught within the claw arm on the front of Snoopy it would have been a far different situation. I don't recall if that was a private dive or one that he made at the 2006 convention, but we should look at that situation sometime in the future and imagine the cable ensnared the sub, then discuss, "Ok now what?"

Last year we started some discussions about equipment, parts, or placement thereof that we might build on our subs as "standards" so in case an entanglement situation arose an outside support team and/or rescuers could understand how to get us additional air, locate lift hooks, etc. We've let that discussion falter and should get back to it since it represents an opportunity to deal with a situation without forcing the occupant to escape. And lastly, directed to everyone, Jay Jeffries has a lot of practical knowledge on issues surrounding sub escape and has spent two consecutive conventions discussing the topic. He should be listened to.

Jon



Greg Cottrell wrote:

I also agree with Dan. No offense, but I think that it is very interesting that some folks would say that following the PVHO is “over kill” on safety and not necessary but then spend all their energy planning to escape from their sunken sub. An escape plan is a fine idea, but it would be nice to see more of that energy spent on safe building practices that are proven than “internet innovation with a great escape plan”

Greg C




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