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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] See the Great White Sub at Aquarium of the Pacific



Hello Ian,
 
I'll have to agree with Frank, that video presentation by Scott was one of the most interesting videos I've seen in a while. Thanks for confirming it was the Trilobite.  Where did you see a picture of the sub stripped down to bare metal?    The only one I've seen is the one in Jay's post showing it painted in silver blue paint and a very short front MBT.
 
From what I could gather from what Scott said near the end of the video, he has configured the Trilobite to allow two people to be inside. They must of moved the VBT and batteries, and perhaps they added length to it as well. Alec has mentioned 2 person K-250 configurations to me, so I layed down in mine to see what it might be like, and I had to bend my knees and have my feet up in the air, and arch my back. I didn't like it one bit. Perhaps a younger kid then me might like it. So for now I'm moving the VBT and using that space for a couple more batteries.
 
He mentioned they plan to use a modified 3 person Triumph sub for the around the world exploration trip. SEAmagine manufactures the Triumph subs, and has one of them down at Coco's Island off Costa Rica. There basic model of Triumph has a depth rating of 1500 fsw, so that would work nicely cruising at 1000 fsw. They have another model that will go to 3000 fsw.
 
http://www.seamagine.com/triumph_c.html
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8spX4pRWQyE
 
Scott also talked about using an umbilical for a electronic interface with the surface ship and a power supply. When they are running at 1000 fsw the drag that umbilical would cause, I would think would be very high. It's almost as if they need a special designed sub that can be towed by a cable, and that can detach and operate on it's own thrusters. If you tow it like some fishing jigs I've seen, with planes angled down, they could keep a specific depth. In that configuration the cable connection point and planes would need to be beefed up and a longer umbilical.  I've seen electronic depth controllers for RC subs that control the planes, so it shouldn't be out of the realm to do.  Just brain storming.


Regards,

Szybowski




> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:53:57 -0500
> From: irox@ix.netcom.com
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] See the Great White Sub at Aquarium of the Pacific
>
>
> Hi,
>
> that is the Trilobite K250. The last pics I saw of it where it
> stripped to bare metal. Looks great.
>
> I don't remember if I posted this before, but I was able to
> persuade Scott to give a talk at my place of employment in August.
> Mainly about squid, and some about the undersea voyage project:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4iDQsXIi3I
>
> Cheers,
> Ian.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Brent Hartwig <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Dec 5, 2008 3:38 PM
> >To: PSUBSorg <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] See the Great White Sub at Aquarium of the Pacific
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks for the heads up Jay,
> >
> >I wonder if the sub in the picture is the Trilobite K-250 originally built by the Captain, and purchased by, and talked about by Dr. Michael Smith, of Pasadena California at the UI 2008 Conference the day before Jon spoke there. The title was "A 25 Year Exploration History of the Trilobite K250 Submersible". It's to bad Jon missed out on hearing that one.
> >
> >From The Wall Street Journal, Wednesday, July 12, 1978
> >
> >"Michael Smith, a Pasadena radiologist, bought his minisub last September in keeping
> >with "a life long obsession with the ocean" that has included 23 years of scuba diving.
> >Once or twice a month he and some friends use the vehicle to explore off the southern
> >California coast. "I could chase seashells or sunken ships forever." Dr. Smith say.
> >
> >I've searched for pictures of the Trilobite K-250 a couple of times, and again last night and came up empty handed. Does any one here have any pictures or data on the last refit?
> > I suspect it's the Trilobite K-250, because the picture shows a K-250 and Scott's website mentions the Trilobite will launch at the bottom of the page in the below link. I didn't find any other mention or pictures of the sub on there site.
> >
> >"The Trilobite will launch in November 2008 for sea trials."
> >
> >http://www.underseavoyager.org/UVPStory.html
> >
> >They talk about going 100'-1000' deep and around the world, so they most have another sub in the works besides the modified K-250. It looks like they reduced the size of the front MBT and likely the rear MBT as well, then add saddle tanks and pontoons to make up for the size reduction of the MBT's and for better stability. I don't see why they would need to reduce the size of the MBT's, unless they where trying to increase forward and rear visibility. But I don't think it would help much, since I've heard the K-250 blown domes don't allow you good visibility looking down at an angle.
> >
> >I had seen Scott Cassell last winter on a show about humboldt squid. He was the guy that took Star Wars Storm Trooper Armor, and modified it to protect him from the humboldts. I also like Storm Trooper Armor and I have a George built K-250, so it looks like I need to talk to Scott.
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXFQHCgMxr0
> >
> >http://sharkdivers.blogspot.com/2007/12/scott-cassell-bad-ass-squid-guy.htmlRegards,Szybowski
> >
> >From: bottomgun@mindspring.comTo: personal_submersibles@psubs.orgSubject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] See the Great White Sub at Aquarium of the PacificDate: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:11:14 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >For those of you that had the pleasure of meeting Scott Cassell at the last PSUB Conference, here is a news update on where he is with his major expedition project. See below.
> >R/Jay
> >
> >Respectfully,
> >Jay K. Jeffries
> >Andros Is., Bahamas
> >
> >As scarce as the truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.
> > -Josh Billings
> >
> >See the Great White Sub at Aquarium of the Pacific
> >By Jeanne Gallagher
> >Long Beach, CA - Visit the new sub, and meet the “aquanauts” of this ocean expedition during its debut at the Aquarium of the Pacific on Dec. 15 at 10 a.m.
> >The ocean is the last and largest unexplored place on our planet. Less than two percent of the ocean has been explored. To shed light on this last blue frontier, diver and researcher Scott Cassell is launching the Undersea Voyager Project (UVP).
> >As part of the project Cassell and his “aquanaut” team will travel around the world ocean, circumnavigating the Earth in a two-person submersible. Along the way, they will interact with students on the surface via live satellite connection. The public is invited to explore the “Great White” sub during its debut at the Aquarium of the Pacific on December 15 at 10 a.m. The sub will be on display in the Aquarium’s Great Hall. Cassell will discuss the details of his mission and a short video of The Great White’s tests and sea trials will be shown.
> >Captain Scott Cassell, UVP founder & president Commander Robert Oberto, UVP Vice President Ildiko Nemeth, UVP foreign affairs advisor Aquarium of the Pacific biologists
> >UVP: The Undersea Voyager Project aims to circumnavigate the globe at the 100-1,000’ ocean levels in a quest for new knowledge. Working with scientists from around the world, these depths will be studied for effects of pollution and threatened extinction of certain fish species. For more information on UVP, visit www.underseavoyager.org
> >Aquarium: For information on the event at the Aquarium, the public may call 562-590-3100 or visit www.aquariumofpacific.org
> >
> >
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