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"...The Russians place a lower value on safety and the value of human life then we do..." "...The submarines in this Navy were warships above all...." Interesting. I've lived long enough to learn some truths, proven to be true time and again. 1) People are your greatest asset, (regardless of the industry). 2) The people in charge are always credentialed but, not necessarily capable. Joe From: dbartsch2236@hotmail.com To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] More sad news from our Russian comrades Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:00:20 -0500 Joe, I once saw a chart of the oceans of the world showing known Soviet ship wrecks (I think it was in a National Geographic) and was amazed at how many accidents littered the oceans floors. I could myself recall a few...the missile sub that caught fire off the Caralinas, a diesel boat that sank north of England, the Kirsk, and a few others. It would seem that even after turning into a "free" society, the ability to remove itself from the old way of doing things is slow to change. Russia did not have a public to answer to for far too long and the funding for Naval construction was not tightly questioned. As a submariner, I had an interest in our counterpart and how these men lived and were treated. As Jay pointed out, safety and creature comforts were thought of last if at all. The submarines in this Navy were warships above all, and men somehow stayed aboard them as best they could. David Bartsch From: bottomgun@mindspring.com To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] More sad news from our Russian comrades Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:23:23 -0500 Joe, The Russians place a lower value on safety and the value of human life then we do. On top of that, their maintenance of equipment is abysmal. As a consequence they have many more tragic accidents then we do. Instead of engineering out hazards they live with them. In our case, many times we will over-engineer a system on the side of conservatism. R/Jay
Respectfully, Jay K. Jeffries Andros Is., Bahamas
As scarce as the truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. -Josh Billings
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