RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hawkes Presentation.

[MerlinSub@t-online.de]

The first "Deep Flight" has no air cooling conditioner and was made from a material insulate the interior. 
The Cabin is very small and one person generate at least 150 watt heat.. The scrubber and electronics 
add some watts of heats. 

Sgt.Peppers has a simillar small cabin size. And I drive her in T-shirt pretty warm even in winter 
in the North Sea! And Peppers is a 1/3 inch steel boat not a thermos can.. 
I can imagine that in a such small sub made from 2 inch or so insulate material in tropic water your blood boil after two hours or so.. But maybe I am complete wrong.. 

No Ballast Tanks: Means you can no open the Dome on the surface without a crane or monthership. 
So the concept is : A sub - a crane - and a mothership. And good weather. 
In my view of points a very expensive and time consuption solution. 

No drop weight: Is that true? In my view like drive a car without a belt. 

Single Seater: This expierence we have also, a single seater is fun for one, a double seater is fun for one and thousands guests. So in statistic maths it is 100,000 % more fun.  

Fast Driving: We never run Peppers full speed longer than some second. Only for crash stops. Emile make a video with Peppers full speed in Lake Hemmoor running down a hill. If you like to make such a video onshore just catch a motorbike and run it fast - in a snowstorm during the night.. I did the same expierence during a fast tank blow surfacing in 120 feet - the sub pop out of the water - and I had no idear were.. 

On the other side - yes Deep Flight and his follow ups are heardbeating designs, I would love to drive it..  :-) 

vbr Carsten - conservative submarine designer and builder. 


"Smyth, Alec" <Alec.Smyth@compuware.com> schrieb:
> His criticisms were aimed at his own prior sub designs and philosophies,
> so I thought they weren't insulting at all. In fact I really liked his
> delivery. I've pondered flying subs quite a bit, because the sub I
> started out building was intended to be one. And this video answered a
> question I'd wondered about a long time -- why did Hawkes retire Deep
> Flight after barely diving it? According to this presentation, it was
> because DF was optimized to go fast, and he realized that despite
> "flying", he needed to do so slowly. It made sense seeing the video with
> a manta. 
> 
> My condolences on the job situation, James. We're all probably hanging
> on a thread at the moment in that department!
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alec
> 
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> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of James
> Frankland
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 09:44
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hawkes Presentation.
> 
> Hi Jon
> Only that he seemed very critical of "traditional" subs and people in
> general.
> I know he's an engineering genius and has spent a lifetime producing
> fantastic machines, but i was a little offended by his attitude.
> Particually at the "your rockets are pointing in the wrong direction"
> comment.
> 
> Like i said, it just depends on your opinion and i realise someone with
> his experience is in a position to voice his.
> 
> I've just been told we are to be made redundant from work, so im
> probably just in a bad mood!
> 
> Regards
> James
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jonw@psubs.org [mailto:jonw@psubs.org]
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:12:05 -0500
> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hawkes Presentation.
> 
> 
> Interesting, I was searching for something unrelated on the internet
> yesterday and that video popped up as a link so I followed it and viewed
> it a couple of times.  I don't think I had a rise in blood pressure
> though, so I'm curious if I missed something.  Can you expand on your
> comment a bit?
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of James
> Frankland
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:01 AM
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hawkes Presentation.
> 
> 
> this could raise your blood pressure, depending on your point of
> view....
> 
> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/graham_hawkes_flies_through_the_ocean
> .htm
> l
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