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 Hi David, 
  
That sounds like an interesting design. 
  
If there is any way I can help, just let me 
know. 
  
Best Regards, 
  
Jim K  
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  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:06 
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  Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking for 
  electric motors. 
  
  Jim,     My design encloses a 500 gallon butane 
  tank such as would produce an extreme tear drop design based closely on the 
  Skipjack class fast attack submarine of the the late 50's early 
  60's.      This would require a single drive shaft at the 
  centerline of this boat. The reduction gear I intend to utilize has a  
  10-1 reduction ratio. With the seven bladed prop already produced, this would 
  have a maximum shaft RPM of 174 with the 1 hp DC motor max RPM of 1750. With 
  this prop being some 15" in diameter and the hull so streamlined, this baby 
  should fly!    Ribbing installed in sections should enable fair depth 
  capability and with pulse width modulation, a reasonable range of operation 
  should be achieved as well. This project is not soon to see water as I have 
  two young boys that need to become self reliant first (the youngest being 
  7)     The projected maximum depth for this boat should be 
  close to 
  500'.                                                                                                      
  David Bartsch
 
  
  
     
    From: kocpnt@tds.net To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: Re: 
    [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking for electric motors. Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 
    22:38:50 -0500
  
    
    
    Hi David, 
      
    I'll be happy to help, however the seals that I am 
    using and familiar with are not suitable for high speed shafts. 
    I will help if I can. 
      
    Best Regards, 
      
    Jim K 
    
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      Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:07 
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      Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking 
      for electric motors. 
      
  Jim,      I plan a single 1" drive 
      shaft...I might need some advice on seals 
      later...                                                                                       
      David Bartsch
 
  
      
         
        From: kocpnt@tds.net To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: 
        Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking for electric motors. Date: Thu, 1 May 
        2008 14:26:51 -0500
  
        
        Hi Again Frank, 
          
        As you know, I'm a rotating shaft thru hull kind of guy but may 
        still have an idea for you that will not use electrical power or be 
        slow. If you used two similarly sized dual acting hydraulic cylinders, 
        one as an actuator and one inside as a master cylinder you could have 
        direct immediate response and no power drain. 
          
        Hope it helps! 
          
        Best Regards, 
          
        Jim K   
          
          
        
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          Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 
          12:34 PM 
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          Looking for electric motors. 
          
  
          Hi Jim. Thanks for the compliments. I'm getting ready to do the 
          power thing for the dive planes, and want to check out using electric 
          before I commit to air or hydraulic. I have a grainger's book, and 
          there are lots of motors that would work, but ya, I'd have to build 
          enclosures. I'll probably stay with hydraulics, but want to research 
          this possibility first. Moving the dive planes with an electric 
          toggle switch would make it more responsive to descend/ascend via the 
          planes, but suck up a lot of electrical power. 
           If I use a small hydraulic pump, the inside controls would 
          be basically the same as electric, but I was really planning on using 
          a hand pump, where quick changes in dive plane position wouldn't 
          be possible, but uses no battery power. Still looking for the right 
          compromise of power usage and performance. I have limited space for 
          batteries, and am trying to maximize the 10 battery "bank" so I don't 
          waste it on unnecessary tasks. Anybody out there got a small nuke 
          plant they're not using ? Frank D. 
 
  
          
           
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