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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: underwater comms



Frank,

Sonar pings can be heard through the hull of a submarine.  Voices can be heard also but the energy transmitted is so low that it is very difficult to hear.  There is an impedance mismatch between someone attempting to shout underwater and the water medium.  In addition, sound is not transmitted well at the typical frequencies found in conversation if you look at the sonar equation. 

 

With a little research it becomes obvious that for efficient and clear communications, frequency shifting must be accomplished (this is why dolphins communicate at a much higher sound frequency).  To make the communications more energy efficient, single-side band is utilized.  Earlier references to whale long-range, low-frequency communications is a special case that utilizes a unique area of the ocean, the deep sound layer, to propagate sound over amazingly long distances.  This case is not applicable to PSUBS due to the depth, size of the transducer, and power necessary.

R/Jay

 

 

Respectfully,

Jay K. Jeffries

Andros Is., Bahamas

 

A skimmer afloat is but a submarine, so poorly built it will not plunge.

 

From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of ShellyDalg@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:35 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: underwater comms

 

Hi guys. I've not spent any time in a submarine except for the night ride with Dan in Michigan. What kinds of noises do you hear, and could you hear sounds through the hull like the pinging noises in the old movies but maybe voices if the sound was loud enough. I saw some underwater speakers that are used to communicate instructions to scuba divers but I assume the distance is not too great. I have been able to talk to fellow divers by pulling out my regulator and yelling at them, but it's hard to make out what is being said unless you yell right in their ear. Not really very good, but it works. Frank D.




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