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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Mig welding a sub





Just a quick note.  More allot of CAD engineers, are stress analysis program use the term FOS (Factor Of Safety) and design parts and assemblies to a customers FOS requirements. In the aerospace industry, I've been told the FOS needs to be 20% above max expected stresses, or in other words a FOS of 1.2 would be required. Weight is a very important factor in the aerospace industry. Submarines are not as picky weight wise.

Regards,

Brent Hartwig


From: "Jay K. Jeffries" <bottomgun@mindspring.com>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Mig welding a sub
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:17:09 -0400

James,

Safety Factor is a formal submarine term that is first and always a design issue which in all references is never less than 1.5 times operational depth and generally should be at least 2.0 for a personal submersible.  The safety factor makes allowances for not having a perfectly formed hull, discontinuities in materials, transients in operations (especially for those of you considering high speed ops), etc.  It is first a design issue that carries over into later dive operations.

 

As far as the level of due diligence necessary for testing a submersible capable of reaching 200 fsw as compared to one that dives to a depth of 1000 fsw, the same level is required.  A shallow water sub is designed with materials suitable for that depth while a deeper diving sub uses stronger materials.  Both can have similar failure modes�either of the hulls and fittings can rupture.  The failures will be relative to depth.  So the same level of inspection is necessary for both hulls.  I agree that there is more effort required to build the deep diving sub compared to the shallow sub and it is easier to recovery from a shallow water catastrophe.

R/Jay

 

Respectfully,

Jay K. Jeffries

Andros Is., Bahamas

 

A skimmer afloat is but a submarine, so poorly built it will not plunge.

 


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